# 30 cents of every tax dollar raised

**URL:** <https://discussion.fool.com/t/30-cents-of-every-tax-dollar-raised/98694>\
**Category:** Macro Economic Trends and Risks\
**Created:** [November 23, 2023, 12:59pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/30-cents-of-every-tax-dollar-raised/98694 "2023-11-23T12:59:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Divitias](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/divitias/32/9302_2.png) [@Divitias](https://discussion.fool.com/u/Divitias)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 12:59pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/30-cents-of-every-tax-dollar-raised/98694/1 "2023-11-23T12:59:40Z")

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…goes on interest payments:

> This means more federal tax revenue is going toward interest payments. The obligation ate up about 30 cents of every tax dollar in the first three quarters of fiscal 2023, compared with less than 22 cents over the same period in the two prior fiscal years, said Jerry Dwyer, an economics professor emeritus at Clemson University…
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> …The Congressional Budget Office’s long-term projections provide a glimpse into how much larger net interest payments could grow. They are expected to hit $1.4 trillion by fiscal year 2033 and $5.4 trillion by fiscal year 2053, according to an agency report issued in July.

[https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/16/politics/interest-payments-federal-government-debt/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/16/politics/interest-payments-federal-government-debt/index.html)

The CBO is somewhat optimistic in thinking that the debt bubble won’t have burst by 2053 🙂

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**Author:** ![steve203](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/steve203/32/3302_2.png) [@steve203](https://discussion.fool.com/u/steve203)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 4:50pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/30-cents-of-every-tax-dollar-raised/98694/2 "2023-11-23T16:50:55Z")

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Once upon a time, there was a plan. When prompted, Greenspan started whining about turmoil in financial markets caused by an inadequate supply of government debt. Multiple rounds of tax cuts for the “JCs” took care of that problem.

 ![debt1011](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/original/3X/9/a/9a235e189ca288d513c0239c65bd084e93665efe.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![jerryab2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/jerryab2/32/3274_2.png) [@jerryab2](https://discussion.fool.com/u/jerryab2)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 12:32am UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/30-cents-of-every-tax-dollar-raised/98694/3 "2023-11-24T00:32:24Z")

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[https://www.federalreserve.gov/BOARDDOCS/TESTIMONY/2001/20010125/default.htm](https://www.federalreserve.gov/BOARDDOCS/TESTIMONY/2001/20010125/default.htm)

“The most recent projections, granted their tentativeness, nonetheless make clear that the highly desirable goal of paying off the federal debt is in reach before the end of the decade.” (meaning 2010)

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**Author:** ![Leap1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/leap1/32/72176_2.png) [@Leap1](https://discussion.fool.com/u/Leap1)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 3:21am UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/30-cents-of-every-tax-dollar-raised/98694/4 "2023-11-24T03:21:40Z")

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> [@Divitias](#):
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> The CBO is somewhat optimistic in thinking that the debt bubble won’t have burst by 2053 🙂

It depends on the debt to GDP ratio.

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**Author:** ![Divitias](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/divitias/32/9302_2.png) [@Divitias](https://discussion.fool.com/u/Divitias)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 9:29am UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/30-cents-of-every-tax-dollar-raised/98694/5 "2023-11-24T09:29:02Z")

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> [@Leap1](#):
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> It depends on the debt to GDP ratio.

GDP is partly ‘funded’ by deficit spending, so I would expect the ratio of debt to GDP to keep some kind of relationship. Zimbabwe’s GDP must have rocketed in the past few years.

What really matters is how the rest of the world sees the USA’s ability to service that debt, which is rapidly becoming a rather obvious Ponzi scheme:

> **[US dollar losing its attraction and global status](https://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202209/29/WS6334d81ea310fd2b29e7a4e5.html)**
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> The Russia-Ukraine conflict, apart from causing energy and food crises, has also triggered the largest de-dollarization wave since the 2008 global financial crisis. And although Russia is leading the de-dollarization drive to offset the effects of...

Lets hope it’s no sudden collapse, just death by a thousand cuts.

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**Author:** ![Leap1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/leap1/32/72176_2.png) [@Leap1](https://discussion.fool.com/u/Leap1)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 1:23pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/30-cents-of-every-tax-dollar-raised/98694/6 "2023-11-24T13:23:20Z")

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That is convoluted mixing Zimbabwe up with the US national debt as if the world is watching. As WEB says never bet against the US.

Hoping for “death” alone is a very bad bet.

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**Author:** ![Divitias](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/divitias/32/9302_2.png) [@Divitias](https://discussion.fool.com/u/Divitias)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 1:28pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/30-cents-of-every-tax-dollar-raised/98694/7 "2023-11-24T13:28:09Z")

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> [@Leap1](#):
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> Hoping for “death” alone is a very bad bet.

I’m not hoping for the death of the dollar. I don’t see any alternative. It’s how the dollar ‘dies’ that matters.

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**Author:** ![Leap1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/leap1/32/72176_2.png) [@Leap1](https://discussion.fool.com/u/Leap1)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2023, 2:22am UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/30-cents-of-every-tax-dollar-raised/98694/8 "2023-11-25T02:22:53Z")

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good grief charlie brown
