71% of Americans now get health care through Gov't plans

only 21% get their health care from private employers through the for-profit, unlimited price gouging model. The remaining 8% are uninsured.

Why is it that wage & salary workers always get screwed the most? Give them what they voted for – good and hard.

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“Why is it that wage & salary workers always get screwed the most? Give them what they voted for – good and hard.”

I agree. Despite their flowery rhetoric, to some extent both Party’s have put the working class interests secondary ( to put it mildly ), but the working class have voted against their own interests, time and time again. They doubled down on this last November.

I’m sure the BBB will finally unveil the awesome healthcare plan the Trump has promised since 2016,lol.

But no matter what happens, we can rest assured that the message will be: “It’s Biden’s Fault”, lol.

No no no nooooo!

The message is and will continue to be “It’s the Pizza basement child rapist gang’s fault, who pupptetted Obama and then Biden into wrecking USA healthcare….”

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Too long for me right now, sorry, but…:

Question: When they 71% get essentially Gov medical care funding are they counting ONLY from the FEDERAL Gov? Or does this include lower echelons State, municipal etc?

That seems…low? Per KFF, about 160 million Americans have employment-based health care:

Employer-sponsored health insurance (ESI) is the largest source of health coverage for non-elderly U.S. residents. Unlike many other nations, the U.S. relies on voluntary, private health insurance as the primary source of coverage for residents who are not elderly, poor or disabled. Providing health insurance through workplaces is an efficient way of offering coverage options to working families, and the tax benefits of employer-based coverage further enhance its attractiveness. Yet, ESI often results in uneven coverage, especially for those with low wages or those working at smaller firms. Overall, 60.4% of people under age 65, or about 164.7 million people, had employment-sponsored health insurance in 2023. The level of coverage varies significantly with income and other factors, even among working families.

…which is about half the population, give or take.

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Biden died in 2020 and was replaced by AI, or robots, or something. Trump retruthed such just a few days ago.

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All Gov’t workers – state, local and Federal.

But the biggest part of the 71% are the folks on Medicare and Medicaid.

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Yes, if you’re a state, local or Federal worker you have “employment-based health care” – paid for by the Gov’t, not a private company.

So that “160 million Americans” includes lots of folks with Gov’t paid health care.

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Sure, but not enough to bring it down that low.

There’s maybe 23 million people that work for the government sector across all levels of government. Of course, not all government employees will use a government plan - if they have spouses that have private coverage, they may use that instead. And of course, some government employers use private plans (for example, Blue Cross/Blue Shield is an option for federal employees).

There’s also about 22 million people that have private health insurance through the ACA marketplace (not employers) which isn’t subsidized.

So again, this seems really low. There’s about 210 million Americans that have private insurance, of which about 160 million get that insurance from a private sector employer or from an unsubsidized ACA plan. I don’t see any way you could get to a number anywhere close to only 21% of Americans being covered by private health insurance.

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Yes, they use private plans with the premium subsidized by their taxpayer-funded employer – so the money is coming from the Gov’t rather than a private employer.

Conversely, you have a lot of Walmart workers who have their hours limited to 32/week or less so that they don’t qualify for company-paid health benefits. They often end up on Medicaid, even though they have a very profitable, “private, for-profit employer”.

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Not sure that’s really relevant to any of your points about “the skim” in private insurance (which doesn’t really go away if the government is paying for it). But regardless, there’s not enough government employees to materially affect the overall proportion - even if every single one of them were excluded from “private insurance,” you’d still have about 160-170 million Americans on that private insurance. Close to half the population. Nowhere near 21%.