About the Renewable Energy category

Some climate change skeptics have changed their positions regarding global warming. Ronald Bailey, author of Global Warming and Other Eco-Myths (published in 2002), stated in 2005, “Anyone still holding onto the idea that there is no global warming ought to hang it up.”[308] By 2007, he wrote “Details like sea level rise will continue to be debated by researchers, but if the debate over whether or not humanity is contributing to global warming wasn’t over before, it is now… as the new IPCC Summary makes clear, climate change Pollyannaism is no longer looking very tenable.”[309]

Jerry Taylor promoted climate denialism for 20 years as former staff director for the energy and environment task force at the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) and former vice president of the Cato Institute. Taylor began to change his mind after climate scientist James Hansen challenged him to reread some Senate testimony. He became President of the Niskanen Center in 2014, where he is involved in turning climate skeptics into climate activists, and making the business case for climate action.[310][311][312]

Michael Shermer, the publisher of Skeptic magazine, reached a tipping point in 2006 as a result of his increasing familiarity with scientific evidence, and decided there was “overwhelming evidence for anthropogenic global warming”. Journalist Gregg Easterbrook, an early skeptic of climate change who authored the influential book A Moment on the Earth, also changed his mind in 2006, and wrote an essay titled “Case Closed: The Debate About Global Warming is Over”.[313] In 2006, he stated, “based on the data I’m now switching sides regarding global warming, from skeptic to convert.”[314]

In 2009, Russian president Dmitri Medvedev expressed his opinion that climate change was “some kind of tricky campaign made up by some commercial structures to promote their business projects”. After the devastating 2010 Russian wildfires damaged agriculture and left Moscow choking in smoke, Medvedev commented, “Unfortunately, what is happening now in our central regions is evidence of this global climate change.”[313]

Bob Inglis, a former US representative for South Carolina, changed his mind in around 2010 after appeals from his son on his environmental positions, and after spending time with climate scientist Scott Heron studying coral bleaching in the Great Barrier Reef.[315]

Richard A. Muller, professor of physics at the University of California, Berkeley, and the co-founder of the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature project, funded by Charles Koch Charitable Foundation, had been a prominent critic of prevailing climate science. In 2011, he stated that “following an intensive research effort involving a dozen scientists, I concluded that global warming was real and that the prior estimates of the rate of warming were correct. I’m now going a step further: Humans are almost entirely the cause.”[316]

“I used to be a climate-change skeptic”, conservative columnist Max Boot admitted in 2018, one who believed that “the science was inconclusive” and that worry was “overblown”. Now, he says, referencing the Fourth National Climate Assessment, “the scientific consensus is so clear and convincing.”[317]

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Do you even read what you post?
Look at the last line.

So, according to your article, short term CO2 increases causes regional warming but long term it is reversed. Is there anything this magical trace gas can’t do?
If you believe this kind of stuff, there is no hope for you.

Since you pay an exorbitant amount for electric, I assumed you optimized your installation. My bad. Whether you would have installed solar without incentives is moot because you took advantage of them and there is no way to prove otherwise.

Your governor’s penchant to adhere to the green dream is costing you dearly. My current electric bill, with all supply, distribution, and tax comes out to 16.8 cents/kWh which is higher than in years past.
My regional grid has a nuke plant so that probably would be lower if it was just gas and coal.

Just think, you could opt of those rates by getting enough battery back up to disconnect from your local grid. Ha ha.

There is no hope for the climate change deniers. They are a tiny minority of the USA and world population. If you still believe in the mumbo jumbo science of the global warming deniers, then there is no hope for you.

I haven’t paid a nickel on my electric bill for over 9 years. I actually get a refund every year.

Mike

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Since your neighbors are subsidizing your electric bills, you should thank them profusely - especially the ones that cannot afford or have the structure to take advantage of the government giveaway.

Most surveys show climate change as one of the lowest concerns for U.S. citizens.
You are heavily invested in the hype that global warming is going to kill us all. You are listening to alarmists that have not had a correct prediction in 50 years. Get a clue.

  1. Arctic summer sea ice has not disappeared.
  2. Sea level rise has NOT accelerated.
  3. There is no tropical troposphere hotspot as modeled.
  4. Pacific Islands have not shrunk. Darwin knew why in 1834.
  5. Polar bears and the Great Barrier Reef are thriving.
  6. Renewables are expensive by themselves, intermittent, and provide no grid inertia which leads to blackouts.

The desire for a stable 24/7 power supply is going to wreak havoc with all of your “green” power initiatives.
Australia is going to remove small scale solar installations to improve grid stability. That means other countries are wising up to the “green” boondogle.

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Ok, but greener is still better for all of us. Less pollution of air and water.

We should do green like solar and wind whereever the economics make it attractive.

Saving those fossil fuels for future generations is good policy. Burning all we can get our hands on just because we can is DUMB!!

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Actually, I’m subsidizing them. I pay a monthly grid connect fee of ~$10. I over produce a bit that covers that fee and the amount over that the utility pays me once year at true up time. They only pay about 2 or 3 cents/kwh so the utility is making out like bandits.
I could waste those extra kwh’s each year, but instead I’m helping out my neighbors.

Mike

Its nice that you think you are helping out your neighbors.
I am curious about how you determine that you overproduce enough to compensate for cloudy days and night times.
I am also curious on how well your output effects grid stability.

Australia is currently in the process of removing small scale solar feeds due to the inconsistent and intermittent nature of solar. If that happens in your area, you may have to set up a transfer switch to separate your system from the grid.

You think solar and wind is green because they don’t use fossil fuel during operation. They both require fossil fuels to implement.
The mining of essential minerals is only part of the pollution releasing factors. Solar panels built in China utilize coal, heavy metals and slave labor.
Windmills require fiberglass (with no way to recycle), rare earth magnets, copper, nickel, etc. besides needing massive concrete bases to mount.
Wind and solar also require miles of space to harvest the low intensity power. Miles and miles of transmission lines and components to harvest the power before entering the grid.
The requirements to build the “green” dream would require the largest expansion of mining in history. It is not going to happen in the U.S. so we would be dependent on other countries that may be hostile to us.

An advantage of green electricity is we already have an electric grid. It serves hydro, nuclear, and fossil fuel plants. It needs updating and probably more capacity.

We connect to it from new sources in new places. We do not start from green fields.

Much of the steel and copper from fossil fuel plants will likely be recycled or repurposed.

Yes, progress requires materials. So does civilization.

We have a deteriorated electric grid that needs to be upgraded as it is now. The capacity needed for data centers alone requires about a 25% upgrade by 2030.
Your comment about not starting from green fields is curious. If you want to expand windmills and solar panels, where do you think they will be installed other than green fields?

If you think the steel and copper recycled from fossil fuel plants will be more than a drop in the bucket for the need for expansion, I believe you need to look at the numbers again.

I guess you have no idea how a grid connected residential solar installation works if you are asking such a basic question. There are plenty of sources on the web that can explain it. But the basic idea is that you feed power into the grid when it is sunny and you take power from the grid when it is not. The utility keeps track (via your meter) and then bills you every 12 months if you use more than you produce…or pays you if you produced more.
Side note: since my house is well insulated and I have a few big shade trees I don’t have whole house air conditioning, by choice. So during the hottest and most extreme days on the local grid I produce power when it is most needed by others. I draw off the grid at night and in the winter when there is plenty of capacity.

Mike

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