# Ad hominem attack on Fed Chair Jerome Powell **URL:** \ **Category:** Macro Economic Trends and Risks\ **Created:** [April 21, 2025, 5:11pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/ad-hominem-attack-on-fed-chair-jerome-powell/115761 "2025-04-21T17:11:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![buynholdisdead](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/buynholdisdead/32/12874_2.png) [@buynholdisdead](https://discussion.fool.com/u/buynholdisdead)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 1:42pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/ad-hominem-attack-on-fed-chair-jerome-powell/115761/21 "2025-04-23T13:42:09Z")
> [@Hawkwin](#): > > Meh. This is how they work. We saw the same thing with ACA. There was dozens of court cases at various levels before SCOTUS ruled (I think multiple times). The process is messy - probably by design. Never by the Labor Board that supposedly can’t be fired. Now suppose this happens with Powell. Four months of this. ---
**Author:** ![Leap1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/leap1/32/72176_2.png) [@Leap1](https://discussion.fool.com/u/Leap1)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 1:43pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/ad-hominem-attack-on-fed-chair-jerome-powell/115761/22 "2025-04-23T13:43:07Z")
Trump and Bessent are talking up the market right now. Fluff stuff. Nothing has changed. Fools and their money are easily parted. Meanwhile the layoffs? > **[layoffs - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=a2fccd0347a25b28&rlz=1C1RXQR_enUS1062US1062&q=layoffs&tbm=nws&source=lnms&fbs=ABzOT_CWdhQLP1FcmU5B0fn3xuWpmDtIGL1r84kuKz6yAcD_ip1RA3L6hbNpnjK_ML6MGeX9tsslGBAmA7OONF1MAjQZrzOUgQeEP3u4PbHm9AoeqYLaTBpe6uoUOdg4_2KgK39tgci-a0hDltNMP7oL-woMI9_wajYilLZjGVWdf3YLf6jGk-UeDBpjltQCg6IPOqo42AVsCTIKw21kthC7jub2yhq9jg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiRnLnPpO6MAxWDjYkEHXHBL1cQ0pQJegQIHRAB&biw=2560&bih=1271&dpr=1.5)** ---
**Author:** ![DrBob2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/drbob2/32/3456_2.png) [@DrBob2](https://discussion.fool.com/u/DrBob2)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 1:51pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/ad-hominem-attack-on-fed-chair-jerome-powell/115761/23 "2025-04-23T13:51:45Z")
> [@Leap1](#): > > Meanwhile the layoffs? Why aren’t all these layoffs showing up in the weekly initial jobless claims released every Thursday? DB2 ---
**Author:** ![WendyBG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/wendybg/32/67464_2.png) [@WendyBG](https://discussion.fool.com/u/WendyBG)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 1:53pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/ad-hominem-attack-on-fed-chair-jerome-powell/115761/24 "2025-04-23T13:53:28Z")
> [@DrBob2](#): > > Why aren’t all these layoffs showing up in the weekly initial jobless claims released every Thursday? According to the press the DOGE layoffs were to come into effect in September. The offices are closed but the employees will be paid until September. Wendy ---
**Author:** ![Leap1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/leap1/32/72176_2.png) [@Leap1](https://discussion.fool.com/u/Leap1)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 1:55pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/ad-hominem-attack-on-fed-chair-jerome-powell/115761/25 "2025-04-23T13:55:16Z")
> [@DrBob2](#): > > Why aren’t all these layoffs showing up in the weekly initial jobless claims released every Thursday? Dear Bob, This is forecasting. Some of it is announced. Are you saying otherwise? Please explain. ---
**Author:** ![buynholdisdead](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/buynholdisdead/32/12874_2.png) [@buynholdisdead](https://discussion.fool.com/u/buynholdisdead)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 2:02pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/ad-hominem-attack-on-fed-chair-jerome-powell/115761/26 "2025-04-23T14:02:34Z")
Nevada has the highest unemployment in the States. Yea, we are number one. 🤠 > **[Nevada remains worst in the nation for unemployment: What to know](https://www.rgj.com/story/news/money/economy/2025/03/07/nevada-unemployment-rate-remains-worst-in-nation/81996857007/)** > > New federal jobless numbers show Nevada ranked last in the nation for all of 2024 and for the latest month. ---
**Author:** ![DrBob2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/drbob2/32/3456_2.png) [@DrBob2](https://discussion.fool.com/u/DrBob2)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 4:45pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/ad-hominem-attack-on-fed-chair-jerome-powell/115761/27 "2025-04-23T16:45:20Z")
> [@Leap1](#): > > Are you saying otherwise? Please explain. It just wasn’t making sense, the combination of “all these layoffs” and new unemployment claims that have essentially been flat for a year. DB2 ---
**Author:** ![Leap1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/leap1/32/72176_2.png) [@Leap1](https://discussion.fool.com/u/Leap1)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 8:46pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/ad-hominem-attack-on-fed-chair-jerome-powell/115761/28 "2025-04-23T20:46:21Z")
> [@DrBob2](#): > > It just wasn’t making sense, It makes perfect sense going forward. If you think looking forward is impossible, consider your money is only looking forward. ---
**Author:** ![MarkR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/markr/32/2011_2.png) [@MarkR](https://discussion.fool.com/u/MarkR)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 8:47pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/ad-hominem-attack-on-fed-chair-jerome-powell/115761/29 "2025-04-23T20:47:08Z")
> [@SuisseBear](#): > > Which would beg the question what the real motivation might be In a different post I wrote - Trump likes easy wins. So he can attack Powell for a month or two. Then come June 18th, Powell will lower rates. And then Trump can say “See, I made him lower the rates. Artofthedeal yada yada yada…” ---
**Author:** ![Leap1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/leap1/32/72176_2.png) [@Leap1](https://discussion.fool.com/u/Leap1)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 8:57pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/ad-hominem-attack-on-fed-chair-jerome-powell/115761/30 "2025-04-23T20:57:50Z")
> [@SuisseBear](#): > > Which would beg the question what the real motivation might be It is not a motive. It is a lack of intelligence. For instance, > **[Trump slams Zelensky for refusing to recognize Russian control of Crimea | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/23/europe/rubio-russia-ukraine-ceasefire-talks-intl-hnk/index.html)** > > President Donald Trump slammed Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky on Wednesday for his comments that Ukraine wouldn’t recognize Russian control of Crimea, calling the remarks “very harmful to the Peace Negotiations with Russia.” ---
**Author:** ![SuisseBear](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/suissebear/32/3785_2.png) [@SuisseBear](https://discussion.fool.com/u/SuisseBear)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 5:39am UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/ad-hominem-attack-on-fed-chair-jerome-powell/115761/31 "2025-04-24T05:39:40Z")
> [@Leap1](#): > > It is not a motive. It is a lack of intelligence. Too often we give politicians a pass by pointing to stupidity where there might be malice. ---
**Author:** ![Leap1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/leap1/32/72176_2.png) [@Leap1](https://discussion.fool.com/u/Leap1)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 10:49am UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/ad-hominem-attack-on-fed-chair-jerome-powell/115761/32 "2025-04-24T10:49:00Z")
> [@SuisseBear](#): > > Too often we give politicians a pass by pointing to stupidity where there might be malice. It is not an either or. The malice is more of the same. More importantly this is not a difference of opinion where a mistake has been made. That it is all that was meant by prior comments by all of us on the stupidity of politicians. More importantly the American public has the right to know how stupid this all is and where the blame lies. The “free press” has not done its job. ---
**Author:** ![flyerboys](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/flyerboys/32/2123_2.png) [@flyerboys](https://discussion.fool.com/u/flyerboys)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 12:50pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/ad-hominem-attack-on-fed-chair-jerome-powell/115761/33 "2025-04-24T12:50:48Z")
> [@Leap1](#): > > The “free press” has not done its job. Yes. Sadly, the collapsing old line free press no longer attracts smart aggressively inquiring minds, who seem to have moved to social media where the money and more immediate influence lies. The old free press is more and more an egoistic vanity indulgence for wealthy folks ---
**Author:** ![Leap1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/leap1/32/72176_2.png) [@Leap1](https://discussion.fool.com/u/Leap1)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 1:08pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/ad-hominem-attack-on-fed-chair-jerome-powell/115761/34 "2025-04-24T13:08:14Z")
CNN pays enough. CNN forbids discussion of taxes as the topic needs to be addressed. ---
**Author:** ![DrBob2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/drbob2/32/3456_2.png) [@DrBob2](https://discussion.fool.com/u/DrBob2)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 1:12pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/ad-hominem-attack-on-fed-chair-jerome-powell/115761/35 "2025-04-24T13:12:10Z")
> **[US weekly jobless claims increase moderately amid low layoffs](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-weekly-jobless-claims-increase-123635779.html)** > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) -The number of Americans filing new applications for unemployment benefits rose marginally last week, suggesting the labor market remains resilient despite darkening clouds over the economy caused by tariffs on imported goods. ... _Low layoffs are anchoring the labor market and keeping the economic expansion on track._ _The number of people receiving benefits after an initial week of aid, a proxy for hiring, dropped 37,000 to a seasonally adjusted 1.841 million during the week ending April 12, the claims report showed._ DB2 ---
**Author:** ![Leap1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/leap1/32/72176_2.png) [@Leap1](https://discussion.fool.com/u/Leap1)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 1:13pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/ad-hominem-attack-on-fed-chair-jerome-powell/115761/36 "2025-04-24T13:13:48Z")
Dear Bob, April 12 was a long time ago. ---
**Author:** ![Leap1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/leap1/32/72176_2.png) [@Leap1](https://discussion.fool.com/u/Leap1)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 1:33pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/ad-hominem-attack-on-fed-chair-jerome-powell/115761/37 "2025-04-24T13:33:24Z")
This is a lack of comprehension on an epic scale. > **[In rare criticism of Putin, Trump urges the Russian leader to 'STOP!' after a...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/rare-criticism-putin-trump-urges-124747837.html)** > > President Donald Trump on Thursday offered rare criticism of Vladimir Putin, urging the Russian leader to “STOP!” after a deadly barrage of attacks on Kyiv, Ukraine's capital. Russia struck Kyiv with an hourslong barrage of missiles and drones. Normally he sees us as people just renting a crap apartment from him. But he can see us as people. We can all be crap to him but we are people. Putin is not on that level of humanity. Trump does not understand that. ---
**Author:** ![DrBob2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/drbob2/32/3456_2.png) [@DrBob2](https://discussion.fool.com/u/DrBob2)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 3:05pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/ad-hominem-attack-on-fed-chair-jerome-powell/115761/38 "2025-04-24T15:05:22Z")
> [@Leap1](#): > > April 12 was a long time ago. There is always a lag for real data. _Initial_ jobless claims show no significant changes through last week – just four or five days ago. That is about as current as you can get (and is already almost a fourth of the way through the 2nd quarter). DB2 ---
**Author:** ![Leap1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/leap1/32/72176_2.png) [@Leap1](https://discussion.fool.com/u/Leap1)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 3:06pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/ad-hominem-attack-on-fed-chair-jerome-powell/115761/39 "2025-04-24T15:06:33Z")
Dear Bob, Your money is forward, not backward-looking. ---
**Author:** ![DrBob2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/drbob2/32/3456_2.png) [@DrBob2](https://discussion.fool.com/u/DrBob2)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 1:13pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/ad-hominem-attack-on-fed-chair-jerome-powell/115761/40 "2025-05-15T13:13:19Z")
> [@DrBob2](#): > > _Initial_ jobless claims show no significant changes through last week – just four or five days ago. That is about as current as you can get (and is already almost a fourth of the way through the 2nd quarter). That was three weeks ago. Today we read… > **[US weekly jobless claims unchanged amid stable labor market](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-weekly-jobless-claims-unchanged-124741953.html)** > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) -The number of Americans filing new applications for unemployment benefits was unchanged last week, but job opportunities are becoming more scarce for those out of work as economic uncertainty from tariffs discourages businesses... Initial claims for state unemployment benefits held steady at a seasonally adjusted 229,000 for the week ended May 10, the Labor Department said on Thursday. Economists polled by Reuters had forecast 229,000 claims for the latest week. Claims have moved in a 205,000-243,000 range this year, consistent with a historically low level of layoffs. DB2 [Previous page](https://discussion.fool.com/t/ad-hominem-attack-on-fed-chair-jerome-powell/115761.md?page=1) [Next page](https://discussion.fool.com/t/ad-hominem-attack-on-fed-chair-jerome-powell/115761.md?page=3)