It also includes the Senators. Feinstein and Padilla voted to advance the bills when it was in committee, but criticized them as well. They’re not necessarily willing to vote for them without changes.
And the two chambers don’t act in isolation. Of Democrats in the House, 42 are from California - nearly 20% of the entire caucus. Pelosi may not have the votes to get the bills out of the House, and Schumer isn’t going to want to spend political capital in the lame duck on a bill that can’t pass the other chamber.
The “reshuffling” almost certainly dooms these bills in the next congress. Certainly it significantly reduces the chances of anything happening. McCarthy is one of the biggest opponents of the measures - he’d never let either come to a floor vote. Though his ascension to the Speakership is uncertain, Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) is another of the biggest opponents of the bills. And he’s certain to take over as Chair of the Judiciary Committee - and Zoe Lofgren, the #2 ranking Democrat on Judiciary, is also an opponent of the bills. Which means that even if McCarthy doesn’t become Speaker, the bills are still likely dead in the water in the next Congress.
I’m starting to think Musk is waging a war against Dems, possibly in retaliation for the EV snub by the White House, mostly due to the exclusion of union work force.
I’m following quite well both the present and the future.
I’m talking about Pelosi because any effort to regulate Apple will have to be adopted during the current Congress, in the upcoming lame duck session. There are several bills pending that could be approved. But they won’t hit the floor for a vote unless Pelosi signs off. She hasn’t yet committed to doing so, and a number of her California colleagues may not want her to.
But I’ve also talked about the future. As I mentioned, the new GOP leadership in the House is going to keep any legislation hitting Apple/Google from passing. Kevin McCarthy and Jim Jordan are strongly opposed to them.
Once the new Congress is seated in early January, all of the existing Apple/Google bills will die (bills don’t carry over from one Congress to the other) - which means they have to start over again in committee. Which also means that either McCarthy or Jordan can kill them just by preventing a vote in committee. So even though McCarthy’s role isn’t entirely certain, we know for a fact that Jordan will replace Nadler as chair of the Judiciary Committee.
That means that unless one of these bills passes in the next six weeks, nothing’s happening for the next two years. Long enough away for Apple not to really care about the mewlings of an annoyed Elon Musk.
You are doing it again. You are assuming you know what is going on from the past.
You are simply wrong. I get you never make a mistake, or get things wrong or admit when anything of sort happens.
There are two issues here. One Apple might boot Twitter over conservative speech. Two Musk and a host of others are not interested at all in paying 30% to Apple. Both things are going hand in hand down the church wedding aisle.
Musk “creates” his first win against Apple and is moving on the second win.
Those for freedom of speech on the right wont trust the first win will stick. Why should they? So they will want the second win lower Apple rates than 30%.
What was “wanted” on Jan 29, 2021 is different than what was signed into law by President Biden on Aug 16, 2022. That is ALWAYS the case, laws evolve as they go back and forth between both houses of Congress. For someone who constantly talks about the IRA law, it appears that you haven’t even read it yet! The word “union” or “collective bargaining” doesn’t appear anywhere in it. That’s most likely because it wouldn’t have passed, or some other items would have had to be negotiated, in order to get it passed into law.
This is so ridiculous an assertion that it is laughable. Right now, and for the past few years, you can find FAR more conservative speech apps in the Apple app store. Ones like Parler, 2nd1st, epoch times, etc.
So, Elon flat out lied about Apple. They never considered removing Twitter from the App Store, Surprise! This is what Elon meant all along about “protecting free speech” people! Elon hates being accountable for his words. I’m going to say something many hear will find offended: conservative voices have never been censored because they are conservative. If they have been “censored”, it is because they have said vile and dangerous things, not because they are conservative.
I stopped trusting Elon a long time ago. When is the fracking Robo Taxi???
Except you haven’t demonstrated that they have any chance of passing in a GOP-led House.
Oh, sure - there are Republicans that enjoy taking shots at Apple and Google, and would vote for these two measures. But as I’ve pointed out - repeatedly - the future chairman of the House Judiciary Committee is vigorously opposed to the bills. Jim Jordan doesn’t just oppose this bill - he went all out to try to torpedo Biden’s selection of Lina Khan at the FTC, and is adamantly against expanding the DOJ’s antitrust portfolio by even a smidge.
Because Jordan can (and will) block the bill, it can’t pass in the new Congress. It doesn’t matter if the issue gains a little traction among some Republicans who seize on anti-tech sentiment as a populist issue. With both Jordan and McCarthy against these measures, they can’t pass next Congress.
And again, Musk and Twitter are nearly irrelevant to this. Especially now that Musk has been caught out as being utterly mistaken about Apple having plans to boot Twitter. That’s not a “first win” for Musk - he didn’t change Apple’s mind. He just got it wrong (or made it up). That’s not likely to win him any influence on these issues going forward.
It doesn’t have a chance in pretty much ANY house. Remember, these are very large companies, and with a few strategic campaign contributions, they can quash, or slow down almost interminably, this kind of legislation.
True. After all, there’s a reason why the two bills (which have already passed committee) have failed to get a scheduled for a floor vote in either Chamber despite having ostensible bi-partisan support.
That’s great but not at all trusted by the right. The point is until 1987 all the lies by the right were illegal on the nightly news. The right has longer memories of not being able to spout an endless stream of lies. You have completely missed the point.
The left is getting more powerful again. The next generations do not want the endless lying. There is open talk of outlawing or stifling liars. Where does that leave them? Oh the horrors not be able to easily lie in public. What would suckers do? Hear the truth? OMG
You have such a shallow understanding of any of this.
When you say “adamantly” what doesn’t Jordan say adamantly? It is his only mode of being. It is not like he means it when he gets to make the decision. He only means it when he doesn’t get to make the decision.
The minority party simply objects all day long against the larger party. In power the minority party takes different positions. Thinking Jim Jordan is going to be consistent when the chair is really not on. Really? Jim Jordan and power “consistent”? C’mon Al. He is not a statesman. He is a camaleon who does not even know what he will say next. He aint much and unfortunately it is all they gots.
Apple does not inspire the right wing to believe their speech is guaranteed. Musk has tapped into that excellently. Jordan will use that politically.
You are truly very funny. Where have you been? Since 2016 this has been the only mode of behavior in the GOP. It is not like Musk is the first Republican do operate this way. We just had a guy tweeting at 6 AM from the Lincoln Bedroom invent this.
Can you tell us which section contains “an order that the federal fleet b[e] union made”?
Also, if this is indeed the case, I’m not sure which vehicles the federal government might order, right now only the Chevrolet Bolt family of cars, the F150 lightning, and the Hummer are union made.
