# Does Thiel Know Something We Don't?

**URL:** <https://discussion.fool.com/t/does-thiel-know-something-we-dont/122168>\
**Category:** Macro Economic Trends and Risks\
**Created:** [November 18, 2025, 12:18am UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/does-thiel-know-something-we-dont/122168 "2025-11-18T00:18:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![tjscott0](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/tjscott0/32/1083_2.png) [@tjscott0](https://discussion.fool.com/u/tjscott0)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 12:18am UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/does-thiel-know-something-we-dont/122168/1 "2025-11-18T00:18:32Z")

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Perhaps like Warren Buffet Thiel is building a cash stash in anticipation of a stock market downturn?

> **[Peter Thiel slashes Tesla (TSLA) stake as Elon Musk warns shorts](https://electrek.co/2025/11/17/peter-thiel-slashes-tesla-tsla-stake-as-elon-musk-warns-shorts/)**
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> Billionaire investor Peter Thiel’s fund, Thiel Macro LLC, has significantly cut its position in Tesla (TSLA), according to a new...

_Q3 2025 13F filing._

_The filing, which covers the period ending September 30, shows the fund sold 207,613 TSLA shares during the quarter._

_This reduces its stake by over 76%, from 272,613 shares at the end of Q2 to just 65,000 shares remaining._

_The sale of Tesla stocks wasn’t the most significant move in Thiel’s latest filing._

_The fund’s most significant move was exiting its entire stake in Nvidia (NVDA), selling over 537,000 shares, a position that had been its largest. Thiel Macro also completely sold off its holdings in Vistra Energy._

- In their place, the fund added new, more traditional “Big Tech” positions, namely in Apple (AAPL) and Microsoft (MSFT).\*

_The aggressive sales shrank the fund’s total reported US equity value from $212 million down to just $74.4 million._

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**Author:** ![captainccs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/captainccs/32/3775_2.png) [@captainccs](https://discussion.fool.com/u/captainccs)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 8:50am UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/does-thiel-know-something-we-dont/122168/2 "2025-11-18T08:50:50Z")

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> [@tjscott0](#):
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> Perhaps like Warren Buffet Thiel is building a cash stash in anticipation of a stock market downturn?

Thiel just proved that timing the market is hard, TSLA shot up after September.

 ![tsla](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/original/3X/8/b/8b0f6828e8ba15d4d73536ccee8129f04dbee840.jpeg)

But he did sell during an upward trend.

> [@tjscott0](#):
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> In their place, the fund added new, more traditional “Big Tech” positions, namely in Apple (AAPL) and Microsoft (MSFT).\*

Looks like Thiel is buying into the market will crash sentiment. Apple and Microsoft are safer positions.

The Captain

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**Author:** ![DrBob2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/drbob2/32/3456_2.png) [@DrBob2](https://discussion.fool.com/u/DrBob2)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 12:55pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/does-thiel-know-something-we-dont/122168/3 "2025-11-18T12:55:47Z")

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> [@tjscott0](#):
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> The aggressive sales shrank the fund’s total reported US equity value from $212 million down to just $74.4 million.

I wonder what their effective tax rate is?

DB2