End of the rule of law threatens economy

That is true. It is more a matter of the effectiveness of the policies one favors

The mayor of DC clearly doesn’t like having the failures of her administration in containing crime highlighted, but at least she admits that DC needed a lot of help. (Isn’t that the first step to recovery?) Mayor Brandon of Chicago has a long way to go.

DB2

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And money to fund policies. Congress slashed $1 billion from DC’s budget earlier this year.

Money aside, some people are willing to accept losing freedoms in exchange for less crime. Take the people of El Salvador for example. I also hear Moscow is lovely!

I’m glad carjackings are down in DC. However, the number of incidents where ICE goons smash car windows is up.

Fear of crime is quickly replaced by a fear of government. There’s no reason we should believe it will play out differently in the US.

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That was never in question - but do you acknowledge that the admin actually cut funding for DC that could have been used to fight crime?

Rather convenient, don’t you agree?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/washington-dc-facing-20-million-security-funding-cut-despite-trump-complaints-2025-08-08/

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That is a complex way of saying we are being completely incompetent from the top down.

My income will be rising substantially. It is going into my credit union accounts. I do not trust banks insured by the FDIC. Who says the FDIC is not revoked when you need it?

Bob,

Ask an important question in any direction and the press won’t be there.

If polling were done, “Do you support the GOP or the Democrats”? The results would be overwhelmingly against the GOP.

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Do you honestly believe this is about ‘law and order’? Look what he’s doing.

“specifically trained and equipped to deal with public order issues” You don’t have to be a genius to read between the lines.

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Someone has got to be kidding! Statistical validity for a 20 day period! What, did there happen to be a peak of 8 carjackings in a 20 day period a year ago (data please) and only 1 since the takeover when everyone is freaked?

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Funding for the DC Metropolitan Police Department peaked back in 2017.

Very little of MPD funding comes from the Federal government (about half a percent). The vast majority comes from local dollars.

“The General Fund is revenue generated by the District. This includes local funds, which reflect funds collected from taxes and fees, as well as special purpose revenues, which are usually fees or fines collected by the agency that are then reinvested in the agency. Federal funds, a very small portion of the MPD budget, are payments from the federal government, usually to support a specific program or initiative.”

https://www.tableau.com/foundation/data-equity/equitable-justice/DC-police-budget

DB2

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Definitely in favor of order. He’s not really attentive to law much, so far as I can tell.

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Update:

“We haven’t gotten critically low on morale, but we’re falling fast,” said one soldier who, like others quoted in this story, spoke to CNN on the condition of anonymity because they’re not authorized to speak to the media and feared reprisal.

“When I talked to him, he was just like, ‘Yeah, this is crazy,’” the father added. He said his son, a car salesman, is making less money now while deployed.

“To date, Guardsmen have cleaned more than 3.2 miles of roadways, collected more than 500 bags of trash, and disposed of three truckloads of plant waste in coordination with the U.S. National Park Service,” the Joint Task Force-DC said in an update on Monday.


If only we had a fully funded National Park Service to take care of the trash, we would not have to spend millions more to temporarily house and feed these weekend gardeners.

“If you wanted to be smart about it, then you might send a water purification unit to DC to help them with purifying water, or you could’ve sent an agriculture unit to help with farming,” the officer said. “But an infantry unit to rake? That doesn’t make any sense.”

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After a week someone find the post offensive… :slight_smile:

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A judge has already ruled that the deployment of troops in L.A. was illegal. No surprise there. I suspect we’ll get a similar ruling about D.C.

I posted on another forum that the troops are really in a bind, beyond doing menial raking of debris. They have a legal obligation to disobey an illegal order. Deploying on US soil without an invasion by foreign actors is illegal. So, from a lawyer I follow, they can be held personally liable for obeying that illegal order. But, had they refused that order, then they could be court martialed. Since few of them are lawyers, if they get that wrong, they either are personally liable, or are subject to a DD and prison.

And you expect -in many cases- young kids to parse that kind of legal tangle?

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I don’t. I expect they will follow orders short of a George Floyd scenario.

It may not be long, especially if they are sent to Chicago, before we have an incident where a National Guard person has opened fire on a citizen.

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Even then…

The lawyer stated that the safest avenue is to obey orders. But the “gotcha” is that if they are illegal orders, the servicepeople can be held personally responsible for obeying that illegal order.

I don’t envy them. I wouldn’t have wanted to have to figure that out when I was in.

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This is where their commanding officer(s) need to step in and make that decision for them. It is his responsibility to shoulder that burden.

JimA

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The bipartisan culture of corruption in Washington started getting weaponized with Reagan’s election in 1980. You did just fine as an investor if you recognized who was screwing you the hardest and invested with them (i.e., drugs, for-profit hospitals, insurance companies, and the defense industry.)

The current version of it is more up front and “in your face”. There’s an honesty in that.

intercst

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There is, but the honesty is making the moral dilemma clearer than ever. Justifying one’s immoral decisions has become much more difficult.

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Relevant update:

Veterans and troops view the deployment “with shame and alarm,” the documents read.

A Guard official acknowledged the assessment’s authenticity and said it was inadvertently emailed to the Post. It is unclear how many others received it.

The analysis found that social posts about the deployment were 53 percent negative, 45 percent neutral, and 2 percent positive.

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Related to this thread is this calm, chilling, interview with former director of CBO and other entities. The federal meddling with ownership of Intel is discussed.

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Relevant update:

MEMPHIS, Tenn. (WMC) - Memphis Mayor Paul Young says he is encouraged after meeting with Deputy Mayor Lindsey Appiah and Police Chief Pamela Smith of Washington, D.C. this week.

Young mapped out three key areas where he says the National Guard assisted in D.C.: law enforcement, beautification, and homelessness services.

“For Memphis, I choose to view this as an opportunity. My commitment is to make sure every resource we receive strengthens our city, not just for today, but for the long term,” Young wrote in his weekly newsletter Friday.

He says he believes the National Guard can help most with community beautification.

Brilliant. What a great way to use taxpayer dollars of another community for the benefit your citizens.

Sucks for the NG folks but a great cost savings for Memphis.

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