Erogan Moves Away from West

https://news.yahoo.com/turkeys-erdogan-targets-joining-shang…

President Tayyip Erdogan said he was targeting membership of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) for NATO-member Turkey, broadcaster NTV and other media said on Saturday.

Amid bilateral discussions at the summit, Erdogan had talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin and Erdogan said Turkey and Russia had reached a deal resolving a dispute over a nuclear power plant being built at Akkuyu in southern Turkey

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisat…

The Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) is a Eurasian political, economic and security organization. In terms of geographic scope and population, it is the world’s largest regional organization, covering approximately 60% of the area of Eurasia, 40% of the world population, and more than 30% of global GDP.[4]

The SCO is the successor to the Shanghai Five (S5), a mutual security agreement formed in 1996 between the People’s Republic of China, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, and Tajikistan.[5] On 15 June 2001

Since 2004 Turkey has been attempting to gain EU membership. I don’t know what has been the hang up of gaining acceptance. Perhaps Turkey is fed up & moving on?

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https://news.yahoo.com/putin-says-turkey-russia-nearing-1758…

Putin says Turkey and Russia are nearing a deal for 25% of natural gas supplies to the country to be paid for in roubles

Erdogan has been creating economic blunder after economic blunder in Turkey. He is a disaster. It is no surprise he would not be invited into the EU. It is no surprise he would look to a sinking China for economic “support”. He has power that does not mean he knows what he is doing.

Strong man always brilliant need not apply.

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Since 2004 Turkey has been attempting to gain EU membership. I don’t know what has been the hang up of gaining acceptance. Perhaps Turkey is fed up & moving on?

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Corruption, rule of law, human rights, persecution of Kurds and many other items are the hang ups.

Jaak

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a mutual security agreement formed in 1996 between the People’s Republic of China, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, and Tajikistan.[5] On 15 June 2001

For those who missed it

September 17, 2022

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https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/17/asia/border-clashes-kyrgyzsta…

They seem to have become “unmutual”.

Steve

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Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Turkmenistan all hate the Russians in their hearts.

Jaak

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Since 2004 Turkey has been attempting to gain EU membership. I don’t know what has been the hang up of gaining acceptance.

It would be somewhat akin to the USA giving all Mexicans the right to live and work in USA.

Not everyone is super keen.

It would be somewhat akin to the USA giving all Mexicans the right to live and work in USA.

It is very similar. When the problem in the first instance longer term has been governments impoverishing their own nations.

The difference from what I know the Europeans in countries like Germany manage this much better. People are more often paying taxes.

That said I got a shock in Dublin sitting next to a German accountant. Most accounting in Germany is still dealing with cash transactions. The Germans are very resistant to using credit. You can guess why. She confirmed it with a twinkle in her eyes.