# Executive order updates **URL:** \ **Category:** Macro Economic Trends and Risks\ **Created:** [January 21, 2025, 2:28am UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/executive-order-updates/112466 "2025-01-21T02:28:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![steve203](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/steve203/32/3302_2.png) [@steve203](https://discussion.fool.com/u/steve203)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 2:28am UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/executive-order-updates/112466/1 "2025-01-21T02:28:35Z")
On a scroll from ABC News. The page updates frequently. Headlines: ![ABCNews logo](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/original/3X/d/e/de27f88f549c22853faaca273167ddad25f3004e.png) 24 minutes ago ## Trump withdraws US from World Health Organization ## Trump says he will enact tariffs on Canada, Mexico on Feb. 1 Then, later in the evening, he expressed that his administration was “thinking in terms” of imposing 25% tariffs on Mexico and Canada on Feb. 1. ## Trump signs executive order ending birthright citizenship Among executive orders signed by Trump at the Oval Office is one ending birthright citizenship. Such a move, though, is expected to face significant legal hurdles. Under the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, any person born within the territory of the U.S. is a U.S. citizen. When a reporter pointed out that that order will likely be challenged, Trump said, “You could be right.” ## Trump signs order to withdraw US from climate agreement > **[Pres. Donald Trump moves swiftly to implement his new agenda after inauguration](https://abc7ny.com/live-updates/trump-presidential-inauguration-2025-live-updates-president-elect-donald-set-take-office/15807227/entry/15820699/)** > > President Donald Trump's inauguration was filled with sweeping executive orders, a roaring crowd of supporters at Capital One Arena, and glitz and glamour at inaugural balls. So, he’s giving Mexico and Canada another week to grovel, and pay up. Yes, his EO on citizenship will be challenged. The SCOTUS, to be consistent with it’s ruling on the “insurrection” clause of the 14th, would need to hold that the citizenship clause is also meaningless, unless Congress passed enforcing legislation, as required by the last section of the amendment. Have your papers in order? Steve ---
**Author:** ![jerryab2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/jerryab2/32/3274_2.png) [@jerryab2](https://discussion.fool.com/u/jerryab2)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 3:27am UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/executive-order-updates/112466/2 "2025-01-21T03:27:13Z")
> [@steve203](#): > > Have your papers in order? Order to deport Pretender ready to be issued by an appropriate authority. After all, he is not eligible to be President because he ended birthright citizenship in the US. Thus, he is not a natural born citizen of the US per his issued Order and he will be the first to be deported. It is so ordered. ---
**Author:** ![steve203](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/steve203/32/3302_2.png) [@steve203](https://discussion.fool.com/u/steve203)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 5:50am UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/executive-order-updates/112466/3 "2025-01-21T05:50:25Z")
> [@jerryab2](#): > > After all, he is not eligible to be President because he ended birthright citizenship in the US. Found the complete text of the EO, rather than depending on what the media says. It cites enforcing legislation that Congress had passed regarding citizenship: 8 U.S.C. 1401. It also, apparently, is not retroactive, but to take effect for people born 30 days from the date of the EO. The EO argues that people born in the US, to aliens, are not “subject to the jurisdiction” of the US. Text of the EO: > **[Protecting The Meaning And Value Of American Citizenship – The White House](https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-meaning-and-value-of-american-citizenship/)** > > By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered: Section 1. Text of 8 USC 1401: > **[8 U.S. Code § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States at birth](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401)** ---
**Author:** ![UpNorthJoe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/upnorthjoe/32/1083_2.png) [@UpNorthJoe](https://discussion.fool.com/u/UpNorthJoe)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 4:23pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/executive-order-updates/112466/4 "2025-01-21T16:23:04Z")
He also reversed The previous Prez executive order that lowered prescription drug prices for Seniors on Medicare: [Trump ends program to lower prescription prices, make disease therapy available](https://www.alreporter.com/2025/01/21/trump-ends-program-to-lower-prescription-prices-make-disease-therapy-available/) "Trump’s reversal of Biden’s order ended two other programs that lowered prescription drug costs. The first program implemented in Medicare a flat $2 copay for all generic medications " Will the $35 cap on insulin be removed ? Some Pretty heavy-duty Macro Economic stuff, drug costs will rise even more than normal for a lot of citizens. ---
**Author:** ![rainphakir](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/rainphakir/32/1497_2.png) [@rainphakir](https://discussion.fool.com/u/rainphakir)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 5:20pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/executive-order-updates/112466/5 "2025-01-21T17:20:56Z")
GnH. (Good and Hard). 🎳 ralph has a bit of schadenfreude going on. ---
**Author:** ![Goofyhoofy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/goofyhoofy/32/4721_2.png) [@Goofyhoofy](https://discussion.fool.com/u/Goofyhoofy)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 5:25pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/executive-order-updates/112466/6 "2025-01-21T17:25:37Z")
> [@UpNorthJoe](#): > > Will the $35 cap on insulin be removed ? ![IMG_0752](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/original/3X/4/1/4189cd6a1e23b8025aa1d170790041c1865cc8b4.jpeg) Oh yeah, what’s that saying? Good and hard. ---
**Author:** ![MataroPete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/mataropete/32/16060_2.png) [@MataroPete](https://discussion.fool.com/u/MataroPete)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 5:26pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/executive-order-updates/112466/7 "2025-01-21T17:26:39Z")
> [@rainphakir](#): > > ralph has a bit of schadenfreude going on. Ima witcha. I just hope that the rest of us lGnlH (less Good and less Hard) than those who did not choose wisely. Pete ---
**Author:** ![steve203](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/steve203/32/3302_2.png) [@steve203](https://discussion.fool.com/u/steve203)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 5:29pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/executive-order-updates/112466/8 "2025-01-21T17:29:21Z")
> [@UpNorthJoe](#): > > He also reversed The previous Prez executive order that lowered prescription drug prices for Seniors on Medicare: I anticipated such a move…must not “burden” the “JCs”, you know. Oddly enough, the Merck I picked up in anticipation of this move, is down today. Steve ---
**Author:** ![rainphakir](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/rainphakir/32/1497_2.png) [@rainphakir](https://discussion.fool.com/u/rainphakir)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 5:35pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/executive-order-updates/112466/9 "2025-01-21T17:35:46Z")
I’m not particularly happy with ‘my schadenfreude’. I do NOT think that’s a ‘good’ attitude for my karma. Personally, I try to follow the 8-fold path list of ‘how to live a good life’. Not because I’m Buddhist, or even particularly religious, but because I WANT to act and think and live in a way that I/ralph approve of. And having schadenfreude… aint it. But, I’m mindful enough to know that I’m feeling it. I’ll have to do 8 Hail Marys and 3 Our Fathers. LOLOLOL. ralph. ---
**Author:** ![albaby1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/albaby1/32/12772_2.png) [@albaby1](https://discussion.fool.com/u/albaby1)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 5:55pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/executive-order-updates/112466/10 "2025-01-21T17:55:26Z")
> [@UpNorthJoe](#): > > Will the $35 cap on insulin be removed ? No. The $35 cap on insulin was part of the Inflation Reduction Act. The Executive Order that Trump signed yesterday didn’t (and could not) affect that. Instead, Trump’s EO just reversed a prior Biden EO that had directed HHS to develop additional payment and delivery models to try to reduce the cost of drugs - and then submit those for potential incorporation into rule-making or future legislation. If the Biden EO resulted in anything concrete happening, I wasn’t able to find it in any quick Googling. So there’s probably not much of a concrete effect to Trump’s EO undoing it. I would not expect much of a near-term impact to the prices that US’ians pay for their pharmaceuticals. ---
**Author:** ![MarkR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/markr/32/2011_2.png) [@MarkR](https://discussion.fool.com/u/MarkR)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 7:08pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/executive-order-updates/112466/11 "2025-01-21T19:08:34Z")
Most of these rapid EOs are just for show (as per usual). The new administration is trying to project a sense of urgency and rapid action. But government doesn’t work that way, government is very slow to change, even when there’s a “bulldozer” type of person heading it. The macro economy, the “market”, because it is comprised of “everyone”, usually can tell real from fake action, and most of the time prices things accordingly. That’s why the pharma company stocks didn’t shoot up immediately. That isn’t to say that overall this administration won’t be good for the pharma industry, that remains to be seen, and when the market is convinced that it is, the stocks will rise accordingly. ---
**Author:** ![flyerboys](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/flyerboys/32/2123_2.png) [@flyerboys](https://discussion.fool.com/u/flyerboys)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 8:11pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/executive-order-updates/112466/12 "2025-01-21T20:11:27Z")
An excellent post. We shall see. d fb ---
**Author:** ![DrBob2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/drbob2/32/3456_2.png) [@DrBob2](https://discussion.fool.com/u/DrBob2)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 9:00pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/executive-order-updates/112466/13 "2025-01-21T21:00:54Z")
> [@MarkR](#): > > But government doesn’t work that way, government is very slow to change… At the same time I wouldn’t be surprised to see a sudden drop-off in things such as applications for off-shore wind permits. And as I was writing this post… > **[Trump Orders End to All Wind Energy Permits](https://heatmap.news/politics/wind-executive-order-trump)** > > The worst case scenario for the wind industry is here. Trump on Monday evening issued a sweeping executive order that the government “shall not issue new or renewed approvals, rights of way, permits, leases, or loans for onshore or offshore wind projects” pending what the order describes as a “comprehensive assessment” of the industry’s myriad impacts on the economy, environment and other factors. This affects **all offshore wind development** in the U.S., because all of that takes place in the Outer Continental Shelf, an ocean expanse under federal control that is leased for all kinds of energy production. It also impacts wind projects on federal lands. Although the extent of the impact to onshore wind is unclear because some wind projects are on state lands, project developers often must get approvals under federal environmental and species protection laws, so an end to permits will be quite painful for the sector… Additionally, the order specifically bans wind energy development at the site sought after for the Lava Ridge wind project in Idaho. Lava Ridge has been contentious because of its vicinity to a historic internment camp where Japanese Americans were forced to live during World War II. The project was fully permitted days before the end of Biden’s term. DB2 ---
**Author:** ![MarkR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/markr/32/2011_2.png) [@MarkR](https://discussion.fool.com/u/MarkR)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 9:20pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/executive-order-updates/112466/14 "2025-01-21T21:20:53Z")
> [@DrBob2](#): > > At the same time I wouldn’t be surprised to see a sudden drop-off in things such as applications for off-shore wind permits. That’s not a big change. Those applications were all disappearing anyway due to lack of capital available for it. Nobody in their right mind invests in off-shore wind now after all the deals that have failed recently. ---
**Author:** ![steve203](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/steve203/32/3302_2.png) [@steve203](https://discussion.fool.com/u/steve203)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 9:27pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/executive-order-updates/112466/15 "2025-01-21T21:27:30Z")
> [@MarkR](#): > > That’s not a big change. Those applications were all disappearing anyway due to lack of capital available for it. Besides “windmill cancer”. Steve ---
**Author:** ![btresist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/btresist/32/1678_2.png) [@btresist](https://discussion.fool.com/u/btresist)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 9:33pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/executive-order-updates/112466/16 "2025-01-21T21:33:56Z")
> [@DrBob2](#): > > Trump on Monday evening issued a sweeping executive order that the government “shall not issue new or renewed approvals, rights of way, permits, leases, or loans for onshore or offshore wind projects” pending what the order describes as a “ **comprehensive assessment** ” of the industry’s myriad impacts on the economy, environment and other factors. More big government and regulations. More red tape hindering commercial development. Why doesn’t the free market extend to offshore wind? ---
**Author:** ![DrBob2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/drbob2/32/3456_2.png) [@DrBob2](https://discussion.fool.com/u/DrBob2)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 9:35pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/executive-order-updates/112466/17 "2025-01-21T21:35:22Z")
> [@MarkR](#): > > That’s not a big change. Those applications were all disappearing anyway due to lack of capital available for it. Nobody in their right mind invests in off-shore wind now after all the deals that have failed recently. Shhh. Don’t tell jaagu. At the same, the Lava Ridge project (on-shore wind) has just seen a 180° change in one day. DB2 ---
**Author:** ![btresist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/btresist/32/1678_2.png) [@btresist](https://discussion.fool.com/u/btresist)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 10:04pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/executive-order-updates/112466/18 "2025-01-21T22:04:58Z")
While the US is stopping offshore wind projects… The Chinese are building the first offshore wind platform in Brazil. [https://www.rechargenews.com/wind/china-s-mingyang-makes-new-brazil-breakthrough-with-utility-tie-up/2-1-1694008](https://www.rechargenews.com/wind/china-s-mingyang-makes-new-brazil-breakthrough-with-utility-tie-up/2-1-1694008) And are entering Europe. [First Chinese turbines in German offshore farm cause concerns among Europe’s wind industry | Clean Energy Wire](https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/first-chinese-turbines-german-offshore-farm-cause-concerns-among-europes-wind-industry) Morocco and Egypt will likely be next. Some nations plan for the future, some look only to the past. ---
**Author:** ![steve203](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/steve203/32/3302_2.png) [@steve203](https://discussion.fool.com/u/steve203)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 10:23pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/executive-order-updates/112466/19 "2025-01-21T22:23:24Z")
> [@btresist](#): > > While the US is stopping offshore wind projects… Ah, but, besides “windmill cancer”, TNG says the windmills are all made in China. That makes them bad. Steve ---
**Author:** ![flyerboys](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/flyerboys/32/2123_2.png) [@flyerboys](https://discussion.fool.com/u/flyerboys)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 11:10pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/executive-order-updates/112466/20 "2025-01-21T23:10:01Z")
…and today(!!), after years of quiescence, I have had two offers to buy out my petro-mineral rights in Bakken fracking lands. d fb [Next page](https://discussion.fool.com/t/executive-order-updates/112466.md?page=2)