# Health **URL:** \ **Category:** Retirement Investing\ **Created:** [August 10, 2022, 3:22am UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/health/73634 "2022-08-10T03:22:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![reallyalldone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/reallyalldone/32/511_2.png) [@reallyalldone](https://discussion.fool.com/u/reallyalldone)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 3:22am UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/health/73634/1 "2022-08-10T03:22:29Z")
It would be interesting if there was much more emphasis on maintaining health than negotiating drug prices. Some issues may not be helped but there are quite a few that can be impacted. Sorry - no news link but everyone here can read and use google, right ? ---
**Author:** ![geocarw](https://g.foolcdn.com/misc-assets/discourse-member-avatar_120px_bronze600.png) [@geocarw](https://discussion.fool.com/u/geocarw)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 8:01am UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/health/73634/2 "2022-08-10T08:01:06Z")
_… use google, right ?_ Or use DDG [https://duckduckgo.com/](https://duckduckgo.com/) instead of Google using you? 🙂 George ---
**Author:** ![pauleckler](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/pauleckler/32/2906_2.png) [@pauleckler](https://discussion.fool.com/u/pauleckler)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 11:56am UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/health/73634/3 "2022-08-10T11:56:59Z")
Obesity, smoking, drinking, drugs, junk food, poor nutrition, too much sugar, too much fat, not enough fiber. What are we missing? ---
**Author:** ![intercst](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/intercst/32/1543_2.png) [@intercst](https://discussion.fool.com/u/intercst)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 11:59am UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/health/73634/4 "2022-08-10T11:59:39Z")
_It would be interesting if there was much more emphasis on maintaining health than negotiating drug prices_ Why can’t you do both? The problem with drug pricing is that political corruption is preventing competitive pricing. intercst ---
**Author:** ![1poorguy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/1poorguy/32/61990_2.png) [@1poorguy](https://discussion.fool.com/u/1poorguy)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 12:27pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/health/73634/5 "2022-08-10T12:27:38Z")
I have the same concerns about Google, but you have to give them credit. Or at least I do. Their search results are usually more relevant to me, and presented in a more readable fashion. I use Vivaldi, and they recommend “[startpage.com](http://startpage.com)”. I don’t like it. I switched to Google because it’s just better. There were times on startpage where the answer I was looking for wasn’t even listed, but Google had it at the top of the list. I find duckduckgo to be similar. Maybe better, maybe not (than startpage). But Google give me what I need very efficiently. FWIW. ---
**Author:** ![1poorguy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/1poorguy/32/61990_2.png) [@1poorguy](https://discussion.fool.com/u/1poorguy)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 12:32pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/health/73634/6 "2022-08-10T12:32:36Z")
And corporate greed. The extreme example was that guy who jacked-up the price of an epipen to around $1000 per shot (I forget the exact number). It was previously less than $100. He ended up going to prison for that, and well-deserved. But he did recognize that _they_ have what _we_ need, so they have all the power. “Pay me or go someplace else and die.” I think CostPlus exposes this because they buy wholesale, do a few percent markup to cover costs, and sell it to us. So it’s obvious if you are paying more than that, someone is screwing you. Only government can stop that, but we allow campaign contributions (i.e. bribes), which messes that up. ---
**Author:** ![PSUEngineer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/psuengineer/32/3484_2.png) [@PSUEngineer](https://discussion.fool.com/u/PSUEngineer)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 12:50pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/health/73634/7 "2022-08-10T12:50:53Z")
We have a thread where the OP would find it more interesting to discuss health than drug prices and all the replies are either discussing search engines or drug prices. PSU ---
**Author:** ![mschmit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/mschmit/32/1404_2.png) [@mschmit](https://discussion.fool.com/u/mschmit)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 1:28pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/health/73634/8 "2022-08-10T13:28:07Z")
_We have a thread where the OP would find it more interesting to discuss health than drug prices and all the replies are either discussing search engines or drug prices._ People should exercise more. Mike ---
**Author:** ![intercst](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/intercst/32/1543_2.png) [@intercst](https://discussion.fool.com/u/intercst)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 2:27pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/health/73634/9 "2022-08-10T14:27:38Z")
_And corporate greed. The extreme example was that guy who jacked-up the price of an epipen to around $1000 per shot (I forget the exact number). It was previously less than $100. He ended up going to prison for that, and well-deserved._ The epipen deal was the Manchin spawn. No jail for her – $30.8 million Golden Parachute. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heather\_Bresch#EpiPen\_pricing\_…](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heather_Bresch#EpiPen_pricing_and_retirement) intercst ---
**Author:** ![intercst](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/intercst/32/1543_2.png) [@intercst](https://discussion.fool.com/u/intercst)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 2:34pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/health/73634/10 "2022-08-10T14:34:00Z")
PSU writes, _We have a thread where the OP would find it more interesting to discuss health than drug prices and all the replies are either discussing search engines or drug prices._ Does adopting healthful behavior face the same obstacles as obtaining competitive drug pricing? I suppose if you’re poor, you might live in a “food desert” where the local grocery store doesn’t sell fresh vegetables. I doubt that describes anyone posting here. intercst ---
**Author:** ![pauleckler](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/pauleckler/32/2906_2.png) [@pauleckler](https://discussion.fool.com/u/pauleckler)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 3:20pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/health/73634/11 "2022-08-10T15:20:00Z")
And our health discussion board was closed. ---
**Author:** ![JLC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/jlc/32/1338_2.png) [@JLC](https://discussion.fool.com/u/JLC)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 3:36pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/health/73634/12 "2022-08-10T15:36:33Z")
_It would be interesting if there was much more emphasis on maintaining health than negotiating drug prices._ You can lead a horse to water… From my years of experience, patients/people more often want the answer from a pill instead of from work. Physicians are paid to fix current problems not necessarily give mini lectures on prevention. Insurance companies reward “doing” not “talking”. My personal physician is big on prevention, has an on staff dietician, is starting up an exercise consultation with a PT, but he is also a “boutique” operation. No insurance. JLC ---
**Author:** ![intercst](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/intercst/32/1543_2.png) [@intercst](https://discussion.fool.com/u/intercst)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/health/73634/13 "2022-08-10T15:39:34Z")
_And our health discussion board was closed._ OK, I’ll contribute. I walk 50 miles per week at a brisk pace and still weigh the same as when I graduated from college. I do that by walking almost everywhere I go within a 3 mile radius of my home. It also allows me to eat a diet of cheeseburgers, pizza, and chocolate donuts without putting on any weight. (I do eat one large salad a day to balance that out.) intercst ---
**Author:** ![intercst](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/intercst/32/1543_2.png) [@intercst](https://discussion.fool.com/u/intercst)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 3:43pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/health/73634/14 "2022-08-10T15:43:04Z")
JLC writes, _My personal physician is big on prevention, has an on staff dietician, is starting up an exercise consultation with a PT, but he is also a “boutique” operation. No insurance._ See previous post. I’m getting all that without the “boutique” medicine fee. intercst ---
**Author:** ![Rayvt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/rayvt/32/5204_2.png) [@Rayvt](https://discussion.fool.com/u/Rayvt)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 3:50pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/health/73634/15 "2022-08-10T15:50:27Z")
_I walk 50 miles per week at a brisk pace_ It’s not about you. ---
**Author:** ![1poorguy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/1poorguy/32/61990_2.png) [@1poorguy](https://discussion.fool.com/u/1poorguy)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 3:51pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/health/73634/16 "2022-08-10T15:51:59Z")
I was thinking of Shkreli. Couldn’t remember the name, so had to look it up. [https://fortune.com/2017/08/08/martin-shkreli-pharma-bro-pha…](https://fortune.com/2017/08/08/martin-shkreli-pharma-bro-pharmaceutical-company-convicted/) Hadn’t heard of Bresch. Shkreli seemed to get most of the flak. ---
**Author:** ![JLC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/jlc/32/1338_2.png) [@JLC](https://discussion.fool.com/u/JLC)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 4:24pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/health/73634/17 "2022-08-10T16:24:14Z")
_It also allows me to eat a diet of cheeseburgers, pizza, and chocolate donuts without putting on any weight._ Hopefully that is all in moderation. You can’t out exercise a crappy diet. JLC ---
**Author:** ![PSUEngineer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/psuengineer/32/3484_2.png) [@PSUEngineer](https://discussion.fool.com/u/PSUEngineer)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 4:46pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/health/73634/18 "2022-08-10T16:46:50Z")
_Does adopting healthful behavior face the same obstacles as obtaining competitive drug pricing?_ Since it is her thread and not your thread, maybe you would stick to the topic. You already have your other 1562 threads you started on drug prices to continue to discuss drug prices. PSU ---
**Author:** ![PSUEngineer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/psuengineer/32/3484_2.png) [@PSUEngineer](https://discussion.fool.com/u/PSUEngineer)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 4:50pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/health/73634/19 "2022-08-10T16:50:41Z")
_And our health discussion board was closed._ TMF renamed this board so you could have some health-related discussions. [https://discussion.fool.com/health-related-finances-121706.aspx](https://discussion.fool.com/health-related-finances-121706.aspx) ---
**Author:** ![Daryll44](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/daryll44/32/52792_2.png) [@Daryll44](https://discussion.fool.com/u/Daryll44)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 5:12pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/health/73634/20 "2022-08-10T17:12:40Z")
_OK, I’ll contribute._ _I walk 50 miles per week at a brisk pace and still weigh the same as when I graduated from college._ _I do that by walking almost everywhere I go within a 3 mile radius of my home._ _It also allows me to eat a diet of cheeseburgers, pizza, and chocolate donuts without putting on any weight. (I do eat one large salad a day to balance that out.)_ _intercst_ I guess your tombstone, if you are willing to allocate some of your estate for such a frivolous item that you can’t even personally experience, will say: “He lived the perfect, optimal life”. [Next page](https://discussion.fool.com/t/health/73634.md?page=2)