Israel is destroying West Bank and Lebanon after they destroyed Gaza

What Steve is implying is that you should not take precautions before you get attacked and wiped out.

If one believes the accounts, Hezbollah is the most powerful force in Iran’s Ring of Fire. Israel had to neutralize Hamas before also taking on neutralizing Hezbollah.While the method is up to Israel, the timing is not.

The Captain

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Looks like someone’s hackles got tickled.

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What to do when political leaders lie not only to citizens but to Congress also.
Reports are ignored so that bombs can continue to be supplied to Israel.
Bombing to peace. Nothing is more peaceful than a dead body.
Even the liberal news outlet The New Republic cannot ignore the hypocrisy.

the war has killed more than 41,467 Palestinians, including 16,500 children, almost certainly undercounts and not including death tolls from Israel’s military attacks in the West Bank and southern Lebanon. Even in the face of evidence collected by U.S. agencies themselves, the Biden administration refuses to consider an arms embargo against Israel or acknowledge Israel’s many war crimes.
Blinken Rejected Officials Who Concluded Israel Deliberately Blocked Humanitarian Aid to Gaza. — ProPublica

both USAID and the State Department’s Bureau of Population, Refugees and Migration produced separate reports this past spring concluding that Israel was deliberately blocking much-needed humanitarian aid from Palestinian civilians in Gaza, which under U.S. law should have led to the suspension of U.S. weapons supplies.

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Bleeped AGAIN. AND AGAIN. AND AGAIN…

With militants sitting right next to them.

The number of children dead whose fathers are not Hamas is very low.

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FICTION! You have no proof!!!

The international law does not say killing children of militants is OK!

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No need to deny it on your part.

Fake propaganda should be exposed.

But of course the real issue is Iran and how to stop their support for attacks on Israel.

How will Israel respond to rocket attack from Iran? Attacks on leadership? Military? Economy?

Why was Iran’s rocket attack at night? Makes it easy to photograph and news worthy. Daytime attack probably less news worthy. More about public opinion and image than causing damage.

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iirc, the US did the “shock and awe” thing against Iraq at night. Radar guided AAA and SAMs don’t care if it’s night or day. Most people are asleep. Rousing people from their slumber and sending them running through the streets, in their jammies, looking for a bomb shelter, adds to the panic.

Steve

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The recent attack by Iran hit at about 9pm Israel time, so most people were still awake.

DB2

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Good point. I checked. The USian “shock and awe” thing in Iraq started at 1700 Zulu. Baghdad is +3, so 2000, aka 8 pm. Seems the shrinks figure mid-evening is the best time to terrorize people, rather than the middle of the night, like I would figure.

Steve

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Mainstream U.S. media coverage of Iran’s retaliation for Israel’s April 1 attack on an Iranian embassy building in Damascus was poor, but could have been worse. Six months of widespread media criticism may be having a modest impact. And there was a welcome surprise on cable news. CNN naturally rousted Wolf Blitzer last night to anchor its coverage, with predictable pro-Israel results, but over at MSNBC Ayman Mohyeldin simultaneously hosted his regularly scheduled two-hour report — which was a model of fairness and insight, providing genuine journalism.

Let’s start by examining the lead story in this morning’s New York Times print edition, which will almost certainly be the longest account that more Americans will see than any other. In fairness, the Times sub-headline does say that Iran’s air attack was “Avenging Embassy Bombing in Syria” — and repeats the retaliation angle in the lead sentence. But the article then waits until paragraph 10 to point out that one of the Iranian targets was an Israeli air force base in the Negev desert. Only in paragraph 14 do we learn that Iran’s Revolutionary Guards, which launched the drones and missiles, claimed that they had aimed at “military targets.”

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Did the article mention the only fatality? He was a Palestinian in Jericho. Ironic, that.

DB2

A super majority of Palestinians have peace and security with Israel. Those that don’t have been at war with Israel for 75 years with Russian backing.

There is a lot of lying going on don’t be used.

Armed Conflict - Amnesty International.

Under the laws of war, civilians may not be deliberately targeted, although they may still be killed or injured if this happens as part of a proportionate attack on a military target.

The term, “OK” seems misplaced but I think it fair to claim, “permissible.” Proportionate is sufficiently vague, especially coming from Amnesty International.

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Hamas and Hesbolah both deliberately built their military operations in the midst of civilians using them as a shield. This made attack by Israel difficult w/o civilian casualties.

Israel has not been as careful as we would like but blame Hamas & Hesbolah. Events followed their plan.

War is hell. People die. We all prefer peace. But conflicts must be settled.

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And now, worldwide and very usefully if possible, “civilians” and their government need to evolve the sensibilities to “betray” and expose any such, BUT, how the hell to do that?

d fb

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Sanctions against Iran seems our only real tool. Keep them from selling their oil to limit resources to support Hamas and Hebolah.

But at best effectiveness is limited. Sieze financial assets and block use of financial network and banking.

Somehow deals were made and Iran escaped.

We need to get tougher.

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Especially when the government, and it’s army, are weaker than the “terrorists”?

Steve

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