OT: A Look Back on the Palestinian Conflict

On June 16, 1947, members of the United Nations Special Committee on Palestine (UNSCOP) representing 11 countries arrived in Jerusalem. Their mission was to investigate the causes of the Palestinian conflict and make recommendations about the future of the country as the British Mandate of Palestine came to an end.

From the outset, the investigation was grossly biased in favor of Palestine’s Jewish minority. No representatives of Arab nations were on UNSCOP and the U.N. General Assembly preemptively rejected Arab calls for a single Palestinian state guaranteeing civil and religious rights for Arabs and Jews.

the committee heard from 31 Jewish leaders from 17 Zionist organizations compared to only six representatives from Arab countries, to consider the partitioning of Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states — something it had no legal authority to do under Article 1 (2) of the U.N. Charter which enshrines “the principles of equal rights and self-determination of all peoples.”

To this day, there remains a misconception that the United Nations created a Jewish state which it had no authority to do.

Instead, Resolution 181 gave a green light to the Zionist paramilitary militias — the Haganah, the Stern Gang and the Irgun — to lay claim to a Jewish state in Palestine through a violent ethnic cleansing campaign that immediately followed the U.N. resolution.

Called Plan Dalet (D), what happened next is chillingly described by Pappé:

“The orders came with a detailed description of the methods to be used to forcibly evict the people: large-scale intimidation; laying siege to and bombarding villages and population centers; setting fire to homes, properties, and goods; expelling residents; demolishing homes; and, finally, planting mines in the rubble to prevent the expelled inhabitants from returning…”

When it was over, more than 750,000 Palestinians had been uprooted; 531 villages had been destroyed; 70 civilian massacres had taken place and an estimated 10-15,000 Palestinians were dead.

More at the link.

This history brings to mind a Honore de Balzac quote:
‘Behind every great fortune lies a great crime.’

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Ok, it could have been done better. The question today is still is there a solution that will let Pallestinians live in peace while allowing Israel to exist. I saw no new ideas in the article.

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The Arab nations talk about equality and religious rights.

A wink is as good as a nod to a blind man. For centuries the Sephardic populations had NOTHING. NOTHING.

Egypt’s poorest ghetto had been Jewish with children picking over garbage to eat the bits others had discarded in the last few days. Survival.

Jews ridiculed by Arab children endlessly. Poverty for centuries.

The Arabs refused the talks. The Arabs boycotted the talks.

Jews took reparations. The Arabs would never ever give reparations.

Americans sound familiar? Imagine if African Americans took reparations.

Save your hypocrisy. Find people who know what they are talking about. Your official looking blog post links are nonsense. Skewed crap.

There has been war. The losers now say it was genocide and ethnic cleansing. Palestinians left in large number because Jews even existed.

Those that never had a problem with Israel or Jews are Israeli citizens.

Do you need to support a bigoted way of seeing all of this?

Absolutely

Hamas and the PLA hold elections. The small groups of Palestinians involved declare peace.

The election results end up in being governments for the first time. Governments negotiate. Hamas and the PLA have avoided being categorized as governments to avoid negotiations.

The Palestinians can have peace immediately.

Why do you see any other problem?

The Palestinian Israeli citizens have been at peace always with Israel. The Jordanians who are mostly Palestinians are at peace with Israel. Most Palestinians are at peace working with Israel in democracy.

Hamas is something like 1.5% of the population. US political parties run close to 30% of the public each. The PLA is no better than Hamas.

The Irish have sympathy for the IRA but most of the Irish are not IRA. Time for Hamas and the PLA call for peace.

All of this wreaks of not trusting Jews. The southern dessert in Israel is often unused land. There is room to carve territory. But Hamas and the PLA are paid for years by Europe and the US in support of a two state solution they refuse.

The main opposition or refusal of a to the two state solution is Hamas. The PLA is worried Hamas will out compete them for support if they go for the two state solution.

Arafat also refused a two state solution. Find some Palestinians in the territories that want a two state solution. They are the majority. But they are not in power.

Re: genocide and ethnic cleansing

Use of Gazans as cannon fodder for anti - Israel public news source was part of the Hamas plan from day one.

No doubt the Gazans are eager for peace. But why do they continue to support Hamas?

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They do not support Hamas.

The Irish do not support the IRA. They are sympathetic.

The Gazans mostly want a two state solution.

The tribal leaders are weak. Hamas was better armed. Hamas refused to be a government. Governments negotiate.

To the OP stop posting very bigoted noninformation.

You know there was no genocide or ethnic cleansing. Zero. There are more Palestinians than Jews.

The Arabs and Persians owe a lot to the Jews. Israel might as well be seen as reparations.

The Muslims need the Jews badly. Not everything should be strong armed rule by religion. There needs to be an openness of multiple religions in the region. The abuses by Muslim governments of Muslims needs to see the plurality of Israeli citizens in a democracy.

And stop doubting one thing. People need democratic republics. Do not kid around foolishly with some people don’t need it for cultural reasons. There is no such thing as cultural reasons for not having a democratic republic.

Perhaps movement toward more economic freedom and away from the Gaza being pretty much an open air prison.

Gazans working in Israel allowed Hamas to thoroughly research the defenses of Israel’s border security and the kibutzes. I doubt anything like that will be attempted anytime soon. Unless Gazans agrees to peace terms.

Meanwhile tensions and potential for more conflict remains.

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