Solving the “problem” of “a sovereign citizen” is very simple. ICE/BP asks for his/her citizenship (or other) documents to prove the person is permitted to legally be in the US. The “sovereign citizen” then shows some document that is NOT a US citizenship/legal resident of the US. That individual and his/her family all get deported. They cannot claim US citizenship because they renounced that when they chose to become whatever a “sovereign citizen” might be–and live wherever they live. That location is NOT in the US. So they get deported. Somebody is going to be unhappy.
Internal Combustion Engine / British Petroleum?
I’m confused.
The Captain
That would be
- Immigration and Customs Enforcement
and - Border Patrol
DB2
Ooops.
Thanks Bob.
d fb
To where exactly? The scenario is they get detained by ICE for whatever reason, they show their Sovereign Citizen Passport that they received via internet mail order. ICE therefore determines that they aren’t in the country legally. Now where exactly do they deport them TO?
Russia seems to be a good choice (for them). They are spoiling for a fight and Putin needs soldiers. IMO, a near-perfect fit. If not Russia, Africa. Lots of options worldwide.
It occurs to me that Panama would be a good candidate, after the dog wagging exercise, or maybe, “pageant”, to 'take the canal back".
The tariffs could also be used as a cudgel to make Mexico take them.
Steve
The drug cartels would find good use for them. As what, one must surmise…
The bitter irony is that I and many other “lefties” are for strong immigration control, but the GOP absolutely is not, as witness their utter refusal to even contemplate making the JC’s responsible for hiring only USAians and legally admintted aliens for the jobs they are creating. We do almost useless border stuff to create fear and drama instead of making use of the extremely simple and cost effective means used almost everywhere else in the world to enforce immigration law.
The Border Crisis is a fake crisis created to hide the ravenous hunger of US corporations for cheap vulnerable illegal labor. The fear is the cocktail napkin on the poker table hiding the ace of spades sliding to the designated paid up players.
This ain’t politics, its logistics.
d fb
It’s all about the show. Show deputized “Proud Boys” beating brown people, and herding them across the border.
Think about it for a moment: cutting off chain migration, cutting off temporary protected status for people from particularly strife-torn countries, and ending asylum hearings, cuts of legal means of entering the US. So what happens? Instead of surrendering to the Border Patrol and having a hearing scheduled, people will be forced to sneak across the border, illegally. What happens to people who are really and truly here illegally, rather than having temporary legal status while waiting for an asylum hearing? They are more vulnerable to exploitation by the “JCs”. And the “enforcement theater” of white supremacist militiamen beating on brown people, will motivate the illegals to keep their mouth shut, so the “JCs” have free rein in how to treat them.
Steve
Being bribed by the Mexican cartels in order to sell even more drugs in the US–at higher prices, of course, because everybody gets a share of the goodies.