# Someone just got a Harvard Rejection Letter

**URL:** <https://discussion.fool.com/t/someone-just-got-a-harvard-rejection-letter/115562>\
**Category:** Macro Economic Trends and Risks\
**Created:** [April 14, 2025, 6:55pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/someone-just-got-a-harvard-rejection-letter/115562 "2025-04-14T18:55:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![Leap1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/leap1/32/72176_2.png) [@Leap1](https://discussion.fool.com/u/Leap1)\
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[https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/14/us/harvard-trump-reject-demands.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/14/us/harvard-trump-reject-demands.html)

Harvard University said on Monday that it had rejected policy changes requested by the Trump administration that would have placed “unprecedented” demands on the institution, setting up a showdown between the administration and the nation’s wealthiest university.

A letter to Harvard from the Trump administration on Friday demanded that the university reduce the power of students and faculty members over the university’s affairs; report foreign students who commit conduct violations immediately to federal authorities; and bring in an outside party to ensure that each academic department is “viewpoint diverse,” among other steps.

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**Author:** ![buynholdisdead](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/buynholdisdead/32/12874_2.png) [@buynholdisdead](https://discussion.fool.com/u/buynholdisdead)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 6:56pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/someone-just-got-a-harvard-rejection-letter/115562/2 "2025-04-14T18:56:28Z")

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> [@Leap1](#):
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> [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/14/us/harvard-trump-reject-demands.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/14/us/harvard-trump-reject-demands.html)

Dividend hate this, you are going to make him cry.

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**Author:** ![DrBob2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/drbob2/32/3456_2.png) [@DrBob2](https://discussion.fool.com/u/DrBob2)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 7:19pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/someone-just-got-a-harvard-rejection-letter/115562/3 "2025-04-14T19:19:08Z")

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> [@Leap1](#):
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> Harvard University said on Monday that it had rejected policy changes requested by the Trump administration that would have placed “unprecedented” demands on the institution…

Harvard has an endowment of some $60 billion. I hope all of their funds aren’t already spoken for.

DB2

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**Author:** ![steve203](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/steve203/32/3302_2.png) [@steve203](https://discussion.fool.com/u/steve203)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 7:56pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/someone-just-got-a-harvard-rejection-letter/115562/4 "2025-04-14T19:56:22Z")

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> [@Leap1](#):
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> the university reduce the power of students and faculty members over the university’s affairs;

Typical JC. No underling has anything to contribute, but work, so “shut up and work”.

Steve

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**Author:** ![Leap1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/leap1/32/72176_2.png) [@Leap1](https://discussion.fool.com/u/Leap1)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 2:07am UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/someone-just-got-a-harvard-rejection-letter/115562/5 "2025-04-15T02:07:09Z")

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Dear Steve,

The university refused trump’s demand to reduce the power.

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**Author:** ![Leap1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/leap1/32/72176_2.png) [@Leap1](https://discussion.fool.com/u/Leap1)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 2:08am UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/someone-just-got-a-harvard-rejection-letter/115562/6 "2025-04-15T02:08:20Z")

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Dear Bob

Cost over years 2.2 billion plus 60 million contract.

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**Author:** ![dividends20](https://g.foolcdn.com/misc-assets/discourse-member-avatar_120px_gold700.png) [@dividends20](https://discussion.fool.com/u/dividends20)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 3:11am UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/someone-just-got-a-harvard-rejection-letter/115562/7 "2025-04-15T03:11:59Z")

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> [@buynholdisdead](#):
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> Dividend hate this, you are going to make him cry.

I am happy. $2 Billion saved. **Harvard can march for Hamas terrorists /rapists and against American Jews all it wants.** Free speech, just not with my money.

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**Author:** ![Leap1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/leap1/32/72176_2.png) [@Leap1](https://discussion.fool.com/u/Leap1)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 3:15am UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/someone-just-got-a-harvard-rejection-letter/115562/8 "2025-04-15T03:15:49Z")

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> [@dividends20](#):
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> Free speech, just not with my money.

Dear div,

That takes the cake.

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**Author:** ![steve203](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/steve203/32/3302_2.png) [@steve203](https://discussion.fool.com/u/steve203)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 4:55am UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/someone-just-got-a-harvard-rejection-letter/115562/10 "2025-04-15T04:55:03Z")

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> [@Leap1](#):
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> The university refused trump’s demand to reduce the power.

Reduce their input how much? To zero?

Decades ago, I watched a documentary on TV that touched on product quality, and labor/management relations. I remember one factory worker at Firestone telling what happened when he had an idea that could improve quality or productivity, and he took it to management. Management told him “some are here to think. some are here to work. _you_ are here to work”. As we know Firestone was being run into the ground, until Bridgestone, in Japan, bought it.

Steve

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**Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 2:47pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/someone-just-got-a-harvard-rejection-letter/115562/11 "2025-04-15T14:47:59Z")

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> [@steve203](#):
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> Reduce their input how much? To zero?

Trump for propaganda purposes wanted absolute control over Harvard’s administration. Including all appointments etc…down to every word taught.

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**Author:** ![steve203](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/steve203/32/3302_2.png) [@steve203](https://discussion.fool.com/u/steve203)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 3:20pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/someone-just-got-a-harvard-rejection-letter/115562/12 "2025-04-15T15:20:48Z")

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> [@Leap1](#):
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> Trump for propaganda purposes wanted absolute control over Harvard’s administration. Including all appointments etc…down to every word taught.

So yes, reduce the input of students and faculty to zero.

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Steve

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> [@dividends20](#):
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> I am happy. $2 Billion saved. **Harvard can march for Hamas terrorists /rapists and against American Jews all it wants.** Free speech, just not with my money.

Exactly. Taxpayers should only fund government-approved free speech.

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Intersting there are between six and seven votes on the court for Harvard. Four grads and one liberal out of Yale, plus one or two more out of Yale that won’t support Trump.

Four of the nine current Supreme Court justices are graduates of Harvard Law School: John Roberts, Stephen Breyer, Neil Gorsuch, and Elena Kagan. Additionally, [Ketanji Brown Jackson](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=9c491feca8eb3a39&rlz=1C1CHZN_enUS960US960&cs=0&q=Ketanji+Brown+Jackson&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiSho7DnNuMAxU8F1kFHd2GHqYQxccNegQIBBAB&mstk=AUtExfAAiEMRPjwj8F1K70nD97VmbY2H82xH2v6BzhKrckzuwQ6919J5lZ148gETYKKIDw6e22lvR2cTumHW84iwqH4Rn2GEXuw3z-rEP3cf4DH5Vf68kvUUfdmA-zk8W_Vm2ZD4V8uf56ymxWoXIkEcA2pVMpuDBxmLs_dall8qaFWFwWc8tL-c8_yWUH0VE6Sgcq1L&csui=3) is also a Harvard Law School graduate. The other five current justices are graduates of [Yale Law School](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=9c491feca8eb3a39&rlz=1C1CHZN_enUS960US960&cs=0&q=Yale+Law+School&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiSho7DnNuMAxU8F1kFHd2GHqYQxccNegQIBhAB&mstk=AUtExfAAiEMRPjwj8F1K70nD97VmbY2H82xH2v6BzhKrckzuwQ6919J5lZ148gETYKKIDw6e22lvR2cTumHW84iwqH4Rn2GEXuw3z-rEP3cf4DH5Vf68kvUUfdmA-zk8W_Vm2ZD4V8uf56ymxWoXIkEcA2pVMpuDBxmLs_dall8qaFWFwWc8tL-c8_yWUH0VE6Sgcq1L&csui=3): [Samuel Alito](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=9c491feca8eb3a39&rlz=1C1CHZN_enUS960US960&cs=0&q=Samuel+Alito&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiSho7DnNuMAxU8F1kFHd2GHqYQxccNegQIBhAC&mstk=AUtExfAAiEMRPjwj8F1K70nD97VmbY2H82xH2v6BzhKrckzuwQ6919J5lZ148gETYKKIDw6e22lvR2cTumHW84iwqH4Rn2GEXuw3z-rEP3cf4DH5Vf68kvUUfdmA-zk8W_Vm2ZD4V8uf56ymxWoXIkEcA2pVMpuDBxmLs_dall8qaFWFwWc8tL-c8_yWUH0VE6Sgcq1L&csui=3), [Sonia Sotomayor](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=9c491feca8eb3a39&rlz=1C1CHZN_enUS960US960&cs=0&q=Sonia+Sotomayor&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiSho7DnNuMAxU8F1kFHd2GHqYQxccNegQIBhAD&mstk=AUtExfAAiEMRPjwj8F1K70nD97VmbY2H82xH2v6BzhKrckzuwQ6919J5lZ148gETYKKIDw6e22lvR2cTumHW84iwqH4Rn2GEXuw3z-rEP3cf4DH5Vf68kvUUfdmA-zk8W_Vm2ZD4V8uf56ymxWoXIkEcA2pVMpuDBxmLs_dall8qaFWFwWc8tL-c8_yWUH0VE6Sgcq1L&csui=3), [Clarence Thomas](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=9c491feca8eb3a39&rlz=1C1CHZN_enUS960US960&cs=0&q=Clarence+Thomas&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiSho7DnNuMAxU8F1kFHd2GHqYQxccNegQIBhAE&mstk=AUtExfAAiEMRPjwj8F1K70nD97VmbY2H82xH2v6BzhKrckzuwQ6919J5lZ148gETYKKIDw6e22lvR2cTumHW84iwqH4Rn2GEXuw3z-rEP3cf4DH5Vf68kvUUfdmA-zk8W_Vm2ZD4V8uf56ymxWoXIkEcA2pVMpuDBxmLs_dall8qaFWFwWc8tL-c8_yWUH0VE6Sgcq1L&csui=3), [Brett Kavanaugh](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=9c491feca8eb3a39&rlz=1C1CHZN_enUS960US960&cs=0&q=Brett+Kavanaugh&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiSho7DnNuMAxU8F1kFHd2GHqYQxccNegQIBhAF&mstk=AUtExfAAiEMRPjwj8F1K70nD97VmbY2H82xH2v6BzhKrckzuwQ6919J5lZ148gETYKKIDw6e22lvR2cTumHW84iwqH4Rn2GEXuw3z-rEP3cf4DH5Vf68kvUUfdmA-zk8W_Vm2ZD4V8uf56ymxWoXIkEcA2pVMpuDBxmLs_dall8qaFWFwWc8tL-c8_yWUH0VE6Sgcq1L&csui=3), and [Amy Coney Barrett](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=9c491feca8eb3a39&rlz=1C1CHZN_enUS960US960&cs=0&q=Amy+Coney+Barrett&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiSho7DnNuMAxU8F1kFHd2GHqYQxccNegQIBhAG&mstk=AUtExfAAiEMRPjwj8F1K70nD97VmbY2H82xH2v6BzhKrckzuwQ6919J5lZ148gETYKKIDw6e22lvR2cTumHW84iwqH4Rn2GEXuw3z-rEP3cf4DH5Vf68kvUUfdmA-zk8W_Vm2ZD4V8uf56ymxWoXIkEcA2pVMpuDBxmLs_dall8qaFWFwWc8tL-c8_yWUH0VE6Sgcq1L&csui=3).

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**Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 11:52pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/someone-just-got-a-harvard-rejection-letter/115562/15 "2025-04-15T23:52:00Z")

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Sick for power

Very sick

> **[Trump Threatens Harvard’s Tax Status After Freezing Funds](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/15/us/politics/trump-harvard-tax-status.html)**
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> Harvard has rejected an effort by the White House to exert more control over its programs. Federal law prohibits the president from telling the I.R.S. to conduct specific tax investigations.

Psychiatric care?

“Perhaps Harvard should lose its Tax Exempt Status and be Taxed as a Political Entity if it keeps pushing political, ideological, and terrorist inspired/supporting ‘Sickness?’” Mr. Trump posted on Truth Social on Tuesday morning. “Remember, Tax Exempt Status is totally contingent on acting in the PUBLIC INTEREST!”

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**Author:** ![DrBob2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/drbob2/32/3456_2.png) [@DrBob2](https://discussion.fool.com/u/DrBob2)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 9:04pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/someone-just-got-a-harvard-rejection-letter/115562/16 "2025-04-16T21:04:06Z")

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> [@Leap1](#):
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> Psychiatric care?

There is precedent involving the Bob Jones University (how many decades has it been since you heard that name?) back in the early '80s that went all the way to the Supreme Court.

BJU had a policy against inter-racial dating and, because it received no Federal funding, thought there was no leverage against the university. The IRS revoked BJU’s tax-exempt status, and the Supreme Court upheld the IRS, 8-1.

> **[Bob Jones University v. United States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Jones_University_v._United_States)**
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> Bob Jones University v. United States, 461 U.S. 574 (1983), was a decision by the United States Supreme Court holding that the religion clauses of the First Amendment did not prohibit the Internal Revenue Service from revoking the tax exempt status of a religious university whose practices are contrary to a compelling government public policy, such as eradicating racial discrimination.
> Bob Jones University is a large, private Christian educational institution in South Carolina, serving studen...

DB2

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 9:05pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/someone-just-got-a-harvard-rejection-letter/115562/17 "2025-04-16T21:05:31Z")

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Dear Bob,

You make a sophisticated case for things you do not fully grasp.

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 9:13pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/someone-just-got-a-harvard-rejection-letter/115562/18 "2025-04-16T21:13:42Z")

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> [@Leap1](#):
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> You make a sophisticated case for things you do not fully grasp.

I’m certainly not a lawyer, but I am pointing out the previous Supreme Court decision on the IRS revoking a tax-exempt status.

Will the Feds take on Harvard University? If they do, would they win a legal challenge? That we don’t know.

DB2

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**Author:** ![buynholdisdead](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/buynholdisdead/32/12874_2.png) [@buynholdisdead](https://discussion.fool.com/u/buynholdisdead)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 9:37pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/someone-just-got-a-harvard-rejection-letter/115562/19 "2025-04-16T21:37:12Z")

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> [@DrBob2](#):
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> I’m certainly not a lawyer, but I am pointing out the previous Supreme Court decision on the IRS revoking a tax-exempt status.

I think you are onto something there. We should tax all colleges and religious organizations. Why should any of them be tax exempt?

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**Author:** ![steve203](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/steve203/32/3302_2.png) [@steve203](https://discussion.fool.com/u/steve203)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 9:54pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/someone-just-got-a-harvard-rejection-letter/115562/20 "2025-04-16T21:54:47Z")

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> [@buynholdisdead](#):
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> I think you are onto something there. We should tax all colleges and religious organizations. Why should any of them be tax exempt?

Must not burden the “right” churches Did you hear about the religious events at the WH?

_On Palm Sunday, the president is expected to issue a presidential Easter proclamation that will speak directly to Christians as Holy Week begins and maintain his commitment to defend the Christian faith in schools, in the military, in workplaces, hospitals, in government and beyond._

> **[White House plans 'extraordinary' Holy Week as Trump honors Easter with 'the...](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-hold-extraordinary-holy-week-events-trump-honors-easter-the-observance-deserves)**
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> EXCLUSIVE: The White House is gearing up for an “extraordinary" weeklong celebration for Holy Week ahead of Easter, with President Trump participating in a number of events.

Steve…yes, the General Rants covered theocracy

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 10:08pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/someone-just-got-a-harvard-rejection-letter/115562/21 "2025-04-16T22:08:02Z")

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> [@steve203](#):
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> On Palm Sunday, the president is expected to issue a presidential Easter proclamation that will speak directly to Christians as Holy Week begins

Wasn’t Palm Sunday a couple of days ago?  
Didn’t he play golf?

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