You are trying to exclude people from having a say in their communities. Do you not think that Corporations give money to elected officials? I don’t understand why you would only want unions not to have a say.
Some people have made unions the boogeyman without understanding how it works. They have made right to work states to try to limit their power, now They want to kick them completely out of having a voice, yet they have allowed Companies and individuals to put as much money into elections as possible. In some states I would say that religion is adverse to students interests, should we then not allow churches to have any say in their communities? I think a better way to solve the problem is to have all groups sit down and have a discussion and find a better way to educate the children.
Edit: If you really want to fix schooling find a way to get parents more involved, that is huge, Also force charter schools, like public schools, to accept every student and not kick them out.
Getting parents more involved sounds good, but their involvement needs to be focused on improving education. More and more, cultural hot button issues have sucked time, money, and energy away from things that actually improve learner outcomes. Moms for Stupidity…oops…Liberty is not helping improve education.
“Many school boards are locked in heated cultural fights over issues such as library books, teachers’ pay, trans athletes and teaching about enslavement — issues that can crowd out debates on strategies to raise test scores and graduation rates.”
No but I wouldn’t ever say that they shouldn’t be allowed to have a say. Let them come to the table and show people how extreme they are, while they may influence a small minority the majority can see who they are.
I think all agree that is the goal. But it is a tall order as needs change constantly. Its a moving target. Equipping and training for the new requirements takes years. A really good crystal ball and risk taking is required.
Traditions are valued but that works against updating programs. Its human nature.
We should do the best we can, but at minimum getting it right takes visionary leaders.
You’re fixated on the idea of unions vs non unions. I don’t really care much about the issue. I am focused on what best serves students and more importantly education standards that provide an equal opportunity to succeed for anyone, regardless of their socio-economic background. If Unions aid in that effort great, if not, we need to come up with an employment arrangement that serves that purpose.
You’re actually in some ways part of the problem. You have a preconceived notion that the solution cannot exclude teacher’s unions. In fact, for you, it’s heresy to even question their validity. I have no bias one way or the other only what serves to best educate our children. To answer your question, I don’t care whether teachers have a collective voice anymore than I do car salesman. I want performance and merit to dictate the reward of a profession.
Teachers collectively don’t need a voice. Great teachers need to be highly compensated. Their voice will be the quality of their individual work and parents and schools demand for their time. The top teachers in Japan now earn as much as a million a year. They don’t care about unions and protecting the incompetent. They have decoupled group pay and it is working. I guess the easy way to disprove or prove your point. We should see strong academic performance correlated to strong unions, if it’s a benefit to the customer(student).
Sounds nice, but do you really think that you can compensate fully for the difference in the home environment?
Or, figure out that there is only so much that can be solved for by the employment arrangement.
Of course, one of the problems is that there is a wide disparity of opinion on what constitutes performance and merit. One of the arguments for teacher’s unions is that there is, at the least, two sides to the bargaining.
Again, as the thread has discussed, the most difficult task is whether children can be provided a quality education in spite of poor parenting. It may be only the rare child with natural talent and the Will to succeed will prosper. But the truth is, the public education system is failing on a massive level in some areas. We have children graduating as valedictorian than cannot pass basic proficiency tests.
Whoa you keep bringing up unions and then telling everyone they are fixated on them?
I see you are getting frustrated now. Actually what I said is that no group should be excluded, why would you? Everyone in the community should be allowed a voice. I don’t care if you question their validity but you clearly have a problem with anyone disagreeing with you. Maybe if we let you plan everything and implement it completely to your liking then you wouldn’t complain that people are discussing the issue with you.
That would be great. I am all for it. Now you tell me how you are going to do that. Is it performance measured by school? By School District? By Class size?
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Good luck with that. You will never be able to pay a teacher in the United States what they are worth. Society will not allow it
You know google is your friend.
Yes, Japanese teachers have labor unions. The Japan Teachers’ Union (JTU), also known as Nikkyōso, is the largest and oldest such union in Japan. Additionally, there are other unions like the University Teachers Union and the General Union that represent teachers in specific sectors or regions.