Tesla is one step away from having to recall FSD

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@captainccs

@StalledOut

If he can’t make his “self-driving” cars work, have a person pull them around in a display case saying that autonmous is the future. LOL!

What makes you hate Elon?

I don’t read any hateful remarks.

Maybe laughter from the absurdity of the “future of autonomy” being towed?

What specific statement indicates hate?

I don’t expect a real reply.

[StalledOut]

@intercst

@mschmit

But I have had my model 3 give me warnings that my cameras are dirty and FSD will be degraded.

I got an warning a few weeks ago that there was moisture in the driver’s side camera and “Blind spot alert” was disabled.

So, as the article states, FSD has a degradation detection system. I’m sure sometimes it appears to work. However, as the article states, the NHTSA says that the degradation system fails under common roadway conditions.

If you want to trust your life to a system like that, be my guest. Maybe your heirs will be able to get a nice settlement from Tesla.

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@FlyingCircus

Hyundai’s system of TACC is also bad in that way. It insists that its blind even though hours of diagnostics have been run on it and reported no error codes. The auto-follow does not work anymore at all, but it lets you turn on autofollow and set the distance - creating the expectation that it is working, until it tries to run up someone’s bumper on the highway. Point being, this software is hard - and even after the years and hundreds of millions Tesla has spent on its engineering, it’s proving impossible to automate some challenging scenarios. (I’ve had good “blindness” warnings from my Tesla’s “Autosteer” for the life of the car).

Yeah, the last time I tried to use something like this was “Adaptive Cruise Control” some years back. I’m not sure what type of vehicle it was.

Anyway, with adaptive cruise, the car was supposed to automatically slow down when it came upon a slower car. Well, I felt safe using it until the car abruptly slammed on the brakes at highway speed on the Interstate for no reason. Luckily, there was no one behind me.

I never used it again, which sucked, because I liked normal cruise control, but you couldn’t use normal cruise control without the dangerous adaptive cruise control being enabled.

[Tamhas]

@StalledOut

If you want to trust your life to a system like that,

Where “like that” is a lot of supposition and guesswork and just plain made up theories about what might be found.

[gledmo]

“Tesla LiDAR stance accelerates NHTSA investigation into FSD

Tesla CEO Elon Musk has called LiDAR technology a “fool’s errand” that isn’t a cost-effective way to make advanced driver assistance systems like Full Self-Driving (Supervised) safer.

But this week, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration announced that it was escalating its investigation into FSD partly because its camera-based system may not be adequat…….”

This from the street - there is no link as it is from Apple News.

Outright rejecting sensor redundancy is the real “fools errand”. I think info available in the community FSDTracker demonstrates a propensity to either hit things or make unnecessary lane changes

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@gledmo

Outright rejecting sensor redundancy is the real “fools errand”. I think info available in the community FSDTracker demonstrates a propensity to either hit things or make unnecessary lane changes

I have read multiple reports of Tesla’s FSD changing lanes as it spots “black spots” (the liquid asphalt they drip on roads to seal cracks) as something that needs to be avoided. LiDAR, of course, would know there’s nothing there.