ha ha. This is a good one. You people are living in fantasy land upvoting each other.
This is whatâs known as contentless content. Would you care to elaborate? (Obviously not.)
Go all the way back to Pay Pal (which he did not found, either, although he was part of a prior company which folded in). There were already online payment systems around: obviously credit cards, but also CyberCash, First Virtual and others. But Pay Pal took off, largely after his vision of âX.comâ was abandoned (over his objections) and they linked up with eBay which gave then huge reach. PayPal was another extension of an already good idea, and more power to him/them for being successful at it.
But itâs nothing like âliving on Marsâ or âunderground tunnels fro city to cityâ or the other dreamy stuff he talks about. (The new âXâ is a far cry from âeverythingâ, or even âsuccessâ, though Iâm willing to give it time; so far, thoâ bupkis.)
So. Would you like to explain which truly unheard, previously unthought concept - not just an extension of an already successful one - he has invented? Iâd be glad to update my post.
I showed the video to Ms. Wolf. Her response was âWhy would I spend money on a cold and unemotional bot that walks around like an old man with a load in his pants? Iâm already married to one.â
I bet you at least know where to find your guest a Coke and pick it up and open it and pour it in a glass and add ice.
And add whiskey so you can forget this robot âproductâ hallucination.
Discussing this robot as if it will be a broadly useful product anytime soon is laughable.
At 200+ P/E with declining EV sales and only hopes and dreams of autonomous driving and humanoid robots as new products, Tesla is the poster child, emphasis on child, for âAI bubble.â
Bingo.
Even if AIs evolve to have god-like perception, robots to have marvelous tactile sensitivity and movement finesse, and the two are mated together with brilliance, I still would rather have a typical clumsy limited mortal being who inherently knows of love and death and the shock of an insightful poem or song helping me around my living quarters and my work.
In Elon (whose engineering vision and discipline I could not admire admire more) I see a genius barely controlling fear of death by trying to solidify his delusions of real life auto-apotheosis â a classic form of dangerous madness in its most modern and pathetically dangerous and stinky form.
It is one thing to think of application after application where current robots wouldnât work, but quite a different thing to think of applications where, possibly with a little further evolution, robot might make a significant impact. The robot hand, for example, seems likely to undergo rapid evolution and thus enable many things which current robots just canât really handle.
I explained my view of AI to a banker the other day. He was being a great guy who wanted a long conversation. He saved me a lot of money.
My view
you: 2 + 2 = 4
AI: how many numbers on the left side of the =? 2
AI: 2 + 2 automate the =
AI: 4
That automate the = in its most simplified and simplistic way of seeing the new layering of code is AI.
The second generation of AI has skipped asking how many numbers, instead more code counts the numbers you entered, and automated the =.
There will be workers going through four times as much information to do anything at all.
Iâm willing to acknowledge that the âinternetâ, such as it was, lay dormant for 20 years before Andreesen invented the browser and made the whole thing useful - but that there were uses for it which nobody would have imagined back in the 1970s and 80âs. Even with Netscape, it took another decade, maybe two for the dream to be realized.
So it may be with robots, but I have to laugh that weâre so focused on making them âjust like humansâ with five fingers and everything (well, not everything). I would guess that iterations will come along which are better than fingers, better than legs, maybe better than an upright torso with most of the weight at the top instead of the bottom - but it will take a lot of time to find them and one we do a lot more time to figure out what to do with them.
Which is why Iâm so skeptical of âoh weâre not about cars, weâre about robots and stuffâ. Any monetary reward for that game is a very, very long way off in the future, and I suspect investors (with a few dreamy eyed exceptions) will not have the kind of patience required for the payoff, if it ever comes. Give us one good recession or market swoon for whatever reason, and youâll see people headed for the hills faster than you can say Pets.com
Reminds me of personal computers four or five decades ago, "What on earth would you use one for at home?
The Captain
A truly competent vacuuming and mopping robot would be wonderful, and I expect might will be the the first breakthrough to a level like having a personal computer or a car or bicycle.
My house is as much outdoors as indoors. It has no stairs but lots and lots of small steps up and down between in and out, room and room, multiple thick turkish rugs next to differently textured paving stones, birds and bats leaving droppings, cats and dogs who love to chase and harass things like each other, intruding wind blown leaves, and robotsâŚâŚ
The vaccum robots currently in existence work great in places that are so easy to vacuum and mop that it would be much faster and less work to do it myself than to babysit the roombas.
Oh, that will come too and rather soon, Iâll bet.
Your comment, not mine.
Key words from my comment are: not broadly useful anytime soon.
Things I did not write:
ânever usefulâ
âno unexpected usesâ
Elon founded SpaceX, Tesla, NeuralLink, xAI, OpenAI, Boring, Starlink. He created reusable rockets, gigafactories, EVs, EV charging stations and even trying to help quadrapeligics and blind.
Yet you continue to minimize his contributions taking the blue pill and live in a manufactured illusion.
Different language, same intent.
The Captain
This might be the most honest (and accurate) timeline I have seen suggested.
Itâs a practical matter. Humans have spent centuries building a world in which humans operate and do things like use tools. Having a robot that emulates the human body means adoption into the human world will happen more quickly and with less effort.
No itâs not. You can grip things with fewer fingers, in fact you donât need fingers at all. Thereâs no reason to build something thatâs heavier on top and unstable. We have evolved to have balance, but robots could do with weight on the bottom (batteries?) and slimmer apparatus higher up. In fact legs might be entirely unnecessary; wheels work great, thereâs just no way to do that in nature - but there is with electromechanical devices.
We fly airplanes without flapping wings, bicycles and scooters donât have hooves and legs, we propel grenades without elbows and wrists. No reason to copy the human form except itâs the easiest to come up with (but the hardest to execute.)
Not in many, many environments. Takes a fancy pair of wheels to handle stairs.
This is false. Almost all human tasks involve use of hands. Hands are very complex.
From picking berries to threading needle to plucking feathers - human use hands.
Yes, it is. You can come with all sorts of special one-or-two-off cases where one could get by with less, but the whole point is to have a general purpose robot that can do a variety of tasks, and since today everything thatâs not already automated is done by humans, a humanoid robot will be best able to take most of them on.
Heck, the opposable thumb by itself is widely credited with much of human advancement.