"The Skim" in Ukraine

Why military aid to Ukraine doesn’t always get to the front lines: “Like 30% of it reaches its final destination”
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-military-aid-weapons-fr…

“All of this stuff goes across the border, and then something happens, kind of like 30% of it reaches its final destination,” said Jonas Ohman, founder and CEO of Blue-Yellow, a Lithuania-based organization that has been meeting with and supplying frontline units with military aid in Ukraine since the start of the conflict with Russia-backed separatists in 2014.

“30-40%, that’s my estimation,” he said in April of this year.

I wonder how many of these weapons are ending up with Al-Queda?

intercst

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They do tell us Ukraine government has a history of corruption. The new president was elected to address the problem. Lets hope he is making progress but sounds like the job is not done.

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Truth, or disinformation to erode support for Ukraine against Russian aggression?

Steve

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They do tell us Ukraine government has a history of corruption. The new president was elected to address the problem.

Many politicians run an anti-corruption campaign. But once elected feed at the trough.

Iraq & Afghanistan have had and currently have corrupt governments. Human nature not to have taste of tax revenue. And in many culture you are considered a fool if you don’t.

I wonder how many of these weapons are ending up with Al-Queda?

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The CEO of Blue-Yellow was talking about non-lethal stuff - not weapons - when he said “30-40% that’s my estimation” - he has no proof. His group’s status as an NGO does not permit him to deliver “lethal weapons.”

He might even be skimming some of the non-lethal stuff himself.

There is no Al-Queda in Ukraine.

Jaak

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There is no Al-Queda in Ukraine.

There may be no Al-Queda in Ukraine, but someone may be willing to sell to them at the right price.

intercst

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Truth, or disinformation to erode support for Ukraine against Russian aggression?

Perhaps a little of both?

–Peter

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Lets hope he is making progress but sounds like the job is not done.

Few if any national governments are free of corruption.

Many politicians run an anti-corruption campaign. But once elected feed at the trough.

Do you have evidence that the new guy is corrupt? If not in many places you would be in court defending your claim … without evidence. Generally he is recognized internationally as a breath of fresh air who is willing to stand up to the Russians at great personal risk?

Anyway I really think you should find that evidence (please not from Vlad and his toadies) that he is what you claim … or clam up.

Amazing … a citizen of the only known country where bribing politicians is legal … points to others.

Tim

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There may be no Al-Queda in Ukraine, but someone may be willing to sell to them at the right price.

intercst

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Only some idiot who thinks he can take the stuff through Russian military lines and then swim across rivers, lake and seas to find Al-Queda in Syria, Iraq or Afghanistan.

You need to think a little more.

Jaak

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Do you have evidence that the new guy is corrupt?

The Ukrainian government is made up of many people. And there is a history of corruption it is unlikely their culture turned on a dime with the election of the new guy.

2012 corruption perception index:https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2021/index/ukr

The Ukraine has their own set of oligarchs. I doubt they quietly went into the night upon the election of the new guy.

https://news.antiwar.com/2022/08/08/cbs-removes-documentary-…
CBS News retracted a documentary it briefly released on Sunday after pressure from the Ukrainian government. The original documentary CBS put out examined the flow of military aid to Ukraine and quoted someone familiar with the process who said in April that only 30% of the arms were making it to the frontline.

The editor’s note also insisted that Ohman has said the delivery of weapons in Ukraine has “significantly improved” since he filmed with CBS back in April, although he didn’t offer a new estimate on the percentage of arms being delivered.

In the documentary, Ohman described the corruption and bureaucracy that he has to work around to deliver aid to Ukraine. “There are like power lords, oligarchs, political players,” he said. “The system itself, it’s like, ‘We are the armed forces of Ukraine. If security forces want it, well, the Americans gave it to us.’ It’s kind of like power games all day long, and so eventually people need the stuff, and they go to us.”

Other reporting has shown that there is virtually no oversight for the billions of dollars in weapons that the US and its allies are pouring into Ukraine. CNN reported in April that the US has “almost zero” ability to track the weapons it is sending once they enter Ukraine. One source briefed on US intelligence described it as dropping the arms into a “big black hole.”

Same old story. Some of US Weapons provided to Syrian rebels ended up sold in the black market.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-arms…

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