Thoughts on the Software/AI Selloff

There is a publicly traded company out there that started to create, train and sell AI Agents which independently investigate system failures, autonomously formulate and test hypotheses against trillions of live data points, and execute self-healing remediations. This company operates and monetizes in a space that will see exponentially increasing activity driven by other AI agents setting its consumption based business model up for significant revenue growth. An AI agent is only as good as the data it can see. So the company I am talking about has a strong Network Effects moat as it simultaneously sees, learns and improves from the data of more than a thousand enterprise customers simultaneously. This makes their AI Agents uniquely capable of understanding the pulse of a machine in a way a generic AI agent never could. So if “vibe-coders" or even serious new contenders try to replicate this, they hit a wall: Context and the proprietary training data this company has accumulated for many years. We are still in the early innings of Agentic AI, so if this company successfully transitions from monetizing monitoring cost to a labor replacement, their addressable market isn’t just the $50B observability market - it’s a slice of the $500B+ global IT operations payroll.

Does that sound interesting? Let’s have a look at their most recent financial numbers which they released on Feb 10, 2026:

This company has been accelerating YoY revenue growth from 25% a year ago to now 29% (Q4 revenue was $953M) and its Q1 guide points to further acceleration.

Their YoY RPO growth has accelerated from 23% a year ago to now 52% and their YoY cRPO growth has accelerated from 25% a year ago to now 40%. At the same time, their YoY Billings growth has accelerated from 26% a year ago to now 33%.

Their large ($100k+ ARR) customer growth has accelerated YoY from 13% a year ago to now 19% and their $1M+ ARR customer growth has accelerated YoY from 17% a year ago to now 31%. At the same time, this company has a world-class net retention rate (NRR) of 120%.

This company’s expand motion is firing on all cylinders with 6+ products customer growth accelerating YoY from 30% a year ago to now 38%, 8+ products customer growth accelerating YoY from 47% a year ago to now 64% and 10+ products customer growth at 96%.

After four quarters of front-loaded investments, this company, and I am talking about Datadog, has now achieved the operational crossover from growing OpEx faster than revenue to growing revenue faster than OpEx, showing a clear trend towards strong future operational leverage, while already delivering mid-20% OM and NM and a 30% free cash flow margin.

Thoughts?

-Ben

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I’ve read dozens of fascinating articles and debates on this topic over the past week, but I thought this one hit the nail on the head.

-RMTZP

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DataDog has always had a consumption pricing model, not a per-seat model, which is now, thanks to AI, a big focus for future profitability. For comparison, companies like ServiceNow and Salesforce are just now figuring out new pricing models.

However, ServiceNow and Salesforce have stickiness from both integration with customer workflows (which they run!) as well as leverage of customer historical data, which can be hard to ETL into new products. OTOH, DataDog wouldn’t seem to have much of a moat in either. This has been good for DataDog in that whatever companies are using today for observability and monitoring, it would seem pretty easy to add DataDog in and if it proves itself, take over - but the converse is also true that DataDog could be just as easily replaced by something else better and/of cheaper.

DataDog has one very large customer that they specifically exclude from both results and guidance:
"our guidance that our business, excluding our largest customer, grows at least 20% during the year. "
and then from the Q&A:
“We noted that with the guidance being 18% to 20%, and the non-AI or heavily diversified business being 20% plus, that would imply that the growth rate of that core business assumed in the guidance is higher than the growth rate of the large customer.”

This large customer is unnamed, but is rumored to be OpenAI, which would be a native AI customer, which DataDog claims is one of their fastest growing segments:
“And we also continue to see very high growth within these AI-native customer groups as they go into production and grow in users, tokens, and new products.”
and
"We signed 18 deals over $10 million in TCV this quarter, of which two were over $100 million, and one was an 8-figure land with a leading AI model company. "

It seems this new $10M+ deal is from a new “AI financial model company” that as large as it is doesn’t replace the previous largest customer, which is rumored to be OpenAI at 10%-15% of total revenue by itself (which would mean OpenAI is spending $95M to $310 a year with DataDog!).

In the ER call, DataDog talked about AI in two ways:
"I will split our AI efforts into two buckets: AI for Datadog and Datadog for AI. "

Adding AI capabilities to their product line (which they started doing last year in limited release, going GA and end of last year) is certainly the right path.

DataDog has always been a super-tech-savvy company, with its customers being among the most tech-savvy themselves, and that’s carried forward to today with many “AI native” companies as customers - they claimed 650 AI customers, btw. When asked about the percentage of revenue from the AI customers relative to all customers, management purposefully declined to give out that number.

The danger here is that these tech-savvy AI-native companies decide to use their own products for monitoring on themselves. Certainly a $100m to $300m of spend is something their largest customer has to be continually looking closely at.

FWIW, guidance for next quarter was good, but guidance for next year is “conservative.” DataDog says they’re intentionally sand-bagging but the target for next year is below what they’ve achieved this quarter and this year (20% versus like 28%, IIRC).

DataDog remains a company of interest to me - I admit I haven’t paid much attention to it since I sold out years ago.

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There’s a lot of unpack there. Specifically, what resonated with you? Here’s some of where I had problems with that argument:

On Reddit: "How are you going to spend a decade perfecting the recommendation algorithm? "

Answer: My AI doesn’t need a decade to perfect a recommendation algorithm. I remember back in the day Netflix was offering a serious dollar bounty to people who could author a better recommenation algorithm than it had. Today, NetFlix is using AI with amazing data granularities as input.

On ServiceNow: "Switching costs. Ripping out your ERP system is not like switching from one note-taking app to another. "

Answer: Sure, switching costs on many SaaS products can be high. But, if SaaS depends on holding onto old business while new business goes to the upstarts, then their stock price declines are justified. Companies need to grow to be worth my investment dollars.

He then gives an example of a small company switching out from Salesforce, claiming the company was “overpriced for years,” that it charges too much (a “rip-off”), and that migration costs are the only thing propping up Salesforce for the past decade. As if Salesforce is one of the few entrenched SaaS companies to deserve being disrupted. Hmm.

And then there’s this: "Think of it this way: the rise of mobile didn’t kill software companies - it just changed the interface from desktop to phone. The rise of cloud didn’t kill software companies - it changed the delivery model from on-prem to browser. "

Those are examples of changes in delivery mechanisms: from desktop apps to mobile and from local instances to cloud. And those changes did result in software company upheaval. Skype lost to Zoom, Microsoft lost to Apple, Oracle lost out to MongoDB, AWS, now Snowflake, and other cloud-first database companies.

But, what we’re seeing with AI and AI agents is a far larger change than just delivery mechanisms. Photographers that flocked to DxO for AI based noise reduction are now complaining that no-one’s hiring them for product photography anymore since cloud-based AI apps can turn an iphone photo into a glossy product photo. Hollywood no longer needs high-priced headshot photographers thanks to turn-key image manipulation software. And software applications that were tools for humans are becoming tools for AI Agents at the same time the software itself is getting completely redone in AI.

Finally he admits:
“The growth premium is compressing. Markets are right to reassess multiples. But reassessing multiples is very different from pricing in extinction.”

I’ll argue that a 25%-50% stock price haircut is not pricing in extinction, but is pricing in loss of growth. So, I guess he agrees with what’s going on. Right?

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I don’t think the author of the article is agreeing with the current market sentiment at all, neither do I. When you have companies like Cloudflare and CrowdStrike (mentioned in the article) getting a significant haircut for which AI is bullish, I think that presents an opportunity for the savvy investor.

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I was being taunting with that. He obviously says the market is wrong, but he’s framing the market as saying these companies are going, and I quote, “extinct.” My taunt is that if the market really thought these companies were going extinct, they’d be priced a whole lot lower. Mr Market has given software companies a haircut, not a throat slitting.

I do agree that painting all software companies with a broad brush is wrong. I don’t understand why he thinks, for instance, that ServiceNow will do well while Salesforce will indeed fail.

Crowdstrike was literally just mentioned, with no argument as to why it will continue to grow, except that customers won’t necessarily trust some new company created “an hour ago.” Well, that’s not the right comparison, and not the right analysis.

I’ll postulate that the author’s real problem is that he exaggerates the other side of the argument in an attempt to prove his point, first saying that extinction won’t happen, and then saying that hour old companies won’t win. That’s not the opposing argument to his. I might say that he’s wrong that most SaaS companies will do absolutely fine with no changes needed on their part. That would be the kind of false strawman he’d use.

As for Crowdstrike, which he literally only mentions with no data one way or the other, it charges “per device,” which is essentially per seat. Yeah, you could have 2 or 3 shifts of people for 24/7 usage on the same seat. Now, what happens when you, as a customer, needs only 2 seats, one of which is an AI agent doing the job of 10 people? Crowdstrike makes less money. And sure, they could change their business model, but what does that entail, what are the transition costs, and do they lose customers during that transition? Maybe a Sentinel One swoops in with an AI first security model that’s better and cheaper. Maybe some security engineer at the customer company writes his own AI to replace a few parts of Crowdstrike so they can negoatiate for fewer services, or write his own AI agent to run Crowdstrike with fewer paid seats?

I think about how Intel lost in mobile. It was partially because Intel was slow to recognize that it needed lower power chips for battery powered devices, but I think what really hurt Intel was its business model of literally making every chip. ARM swooped in with a completely different business model - licensing chip designs and providing support for variants. Now, smartphone companies could design chips with exactly the features and trade-offs they wanted to offer, instead of placing the same chip that every other company was using in their products. It’s why smartphones have become differentiated products while laptops are, well, still just laptops that are all the same (and is why Apple is putting ARM chips in its laptops). Sure, ARM didn’t make nearly as much money as Intel per chip, but they didn’t have to build expensive fabs either. All sorts of hardware compatibility issues (like bus, memory) had to be reworked, and software had to be ported or rewritten, but it was worth it. It’s not like castles even with good moats didn’t get overrun.

Can something analogous happen with SaaS? I don’t see why not. Today, using many SaaS products means expensive customization and integration - making their large general-purpose product fit into your company’s workflows. But, when you can create single-purpose dedicated products designed to work exactly with your company’s workflow from the get-go, integration would be trivial, and then what’s needed is the security expertise and training/monitoring data. Some company might do that in the future.

And again, it’s not about stealing existing customers, it’s about attracting new customers who are expanding and need a new security solution. This is growth, not preservation.

I’m sure there companies that are being unfairly punished. Finding them today can be difficult, and the Saul process of letting the numbers dictate doesn’t apply as tomorrow will be quite different than yesterday. Microsoft struggled in the late 1990s and early 2000’s. It tried expanding into phones, even bought Nokia, and still failed. Its desktop software hit Zoom-like TAM domination, so nowhere else to grow. Then the cloud came along, and some thought that would be the death-knell for the company. Well, surprisingly, Microsoft thrived with Cloud Computing. Not only did it spark new connectively life into MS Office (and One-Drive), but enabled new licensing models, and Microsoft was even successful with its own Azure cloud offering. I doubt many predicted that 5-10 years earlier.

Apple successfully pivoted from computers to music players to phones, being the first real successful smartphone maker. But somehow it missed the early innings of AI services and is now paying others to supply them to its hardware-buying customers. Who’d have thought Apple wouldn’t be able to expand Siri into an AI juggernaught?

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@Smorgasbord1 I really appreciate how hard you’re going at it. This is the most active thread I’ve paid attention to on this board in quite some time! The back-and-forth should help us all to sharpen our thinking and help to avoid mistakes.

I’ll just pick out a few things to respond to. I do think the market is throwing out the baby with the bathwater, and you cite a perfect example of this above, with your example of the company announcing their wondrous new AI logistics software that will upend trucking logistics. Sure enough, all the trucking logistics companies sold off sharply.

Is the market making a mountain out of a molehill? A little bit of investigation shows the following:

  • the company making this announcement was, until last August, a karaoke business called The Singing Machine Company,
  • they changed their name last August to Algorhythm (symbol: RIME).

The astute observer will note that most trucking companies still use the equivalent of pen and paper and clipboards to run their business, which is why trucking logistics has been such a tough industry. But the press release clearly did its job: the former karaoke company that’s now an AI software business saw their stock price go from ~$1/sh to $3.60/sh overnight, taking their market cap all the way up to $21m.

While this undoubtedly had a healthy effect on RIME CEO stock options, the consequences for the trucking industry are a good bit less clear.

Does this suggest the market is making wise judgments when it comes to valuing software companies? We report, you decide!

@PaulWBryant asks that we focus on specific businesses of interest to this board, so here are a few I’d call out:

  1. MercadoLibre (MELI) gets mentioned often on this board (34% 2 yr fwd rev CAGR). Where SHOP is down about 30% YTD based largely on fears about agentic AI bypassing SHOP, MELI has been pretty flat. MELI investors with a short time horizon may want to consider the risk to MELI.

If agentic AI can find all the 3rd party sellers that today need to have storefronts on SHOP, they can also find all the 3rd party sellers that today need to have storefronts on MELI.

I happen to believe that this fear is overblown because SHOP and MELI both provide a whole array of features and services that sellers value, not to mention reliability, brand, and especially in MELI’s case, logistics. But as the trucking logistics software episode demonstrates, the market is not being rational. MELI continues to be my 2nd largest position. I fully expect that will still be the case a couple years from now, regardless of agentic AI.

  1. RBRK is another name sometimes mentioned here (and I thank the poster here who first turned me on to them!). 2 yr fwd rev CAGR of 33%, with the stock cut in half due to AI fears.

I’ve never met a CISO or CSO who would buy based largely on price, but that seems particularly unlikely when it comes to RBRK’s customers. They are actively choosing to forego inexpensive or even free solutions for backup systems today, and are willing to pay RBRK license fees in order to have the assurance that when their systems are hacked, they’ll be able to recover their data in short order and avoid long and painful downtime.

Will a raft of new AI startups compete their margin away? I’m sure not betting on that! I’ve nearly doubled my share count in the past 2 weeks, and it’s now my 4th largest position.

  1. DUOL: we’ve already discussed this one. I’ll just point out that their 2 yr fwd rev CAGR is 29%. P/S = 5.6X.

  2. DDOG: @SlowAndFast brings up DDOG, another favorite of mine. @Smorgasbord1 asks why the big AI model companies paying them gobs of money for their service wouldn’t try to replace them with a less expensive solution.

I can’t speak for those customers, but I have paid my dues in organizations that are growing to the moon so fast that your head spins, so I do have some perspective on it.

OpenAI and every other AI software company are on a death march to grow revenue fast enough to justify an increased valuation for the business the next time they raise capital. That is literally the only thing they care about right now. If their valuation doesn’t increase at the next capital raise, their ability to attract and retain the best AI software talent will take a big hit, and the entire enterprise could be jeopardized.

The idea that they could save millions by replacing DDOG with some homebrew solution, even if true, is useless to them Any manager who proposes to take even a single person away from revenue generating activities to focus on cost optimization will be immediately shot down. And nobody in Ops will be willing to consider replacing proven reliable software with unproven software if the consequence of failure might be losing visibility into their production systems for even a second.

At some point, this may change. At some point, as we’ve all seen, the market starts to value businesses like this for profit potential (or even, god forbid, actual profit!) instead of just revenue growth. Until then, nobody will even consider replacing DDOG with a cheaper solution. DDOG FTW!

With appreciation to everyone on this thread for all the insights shared,

ActonUp

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Great discussion so far! I think it makes sense for us to keep threads like this open when there is a changing market dynamic that may impact a lot of stocks on the board. This current inflection point seems to be around agentic AI or automated AI tasks. We will need to determine if our current companies can benefit from agentic AI or if it hurts their business model.

That first wave of AI disruption in 2023 took out some business models which were low hanging fruit for AI or chatbots. One example is ZoomInfo which is a SaaS product to find business contacts. A lot of this functionality could be replicated by a simple query to ChatGPT. Fiverr is another company which saw a huge boom in 2022 but then crashed after the release of ChatGPT. A lot of the tasks that were being contracted on Fiverr could then be done with basic AI.

One general thought I had on this topic is that to be successful in this current market dynamic we are going to need to be willing to adapt to new information effectively. Companies we may have thought of as low growth or commoditized may become high growth like memory makers such as Micron or Sandisk. While some companies that look like high growth innovators will get disrupted from agentic AI. This line of thinking fits in with what Saul said about “this time it is different” for how to think about any current point in time for the market. I’m a big proponent of looking at each individual company as a unique situation which helps keep an open mind.

A good example of how we have had to adapt is from prior beliefs about SaaS. In 2020 it was clear with companies like Zoom that no other business model would be able to scale up as effectively as subscription based software. It was also a common belief that a company producing a physical product is at a disadvantage because this process can only scale up so quickly.

If we end up attached to rigid beliefs about what is better with software vs hardware, we may end up missing some opportunities from our bias. Re-evaluating companies often will be essential with how fast the technological landscape is changing.

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It’s not uncommon for tech companies to “eat their own dog food,” a phrase not necessarily tied to DataDog, lol. It means a company using its own product internally. What we see from OpenAI and Anthropic, for instance, is that they’re developing coding AIs (Codex and Opus), and are using them to create the next generation of Codex and Opus.

In my mind, the question isn’t if OpenAI will point their AIs at handling some monitoring tasks, it’s when. Stiftel and Guggenheim been reporting this “in-boarding effort” has been underway since Jan and June, respectively, of last year. AI companies like OpenAI would love to be able to advertise that they use their own AI to monitor their AI.

Now, maybe it’s just rumor, maybe it’s still years away. Maybe it’s just AI agents using DataDog instead of humans using it. Maybe DataDog excluding their largest customer in their conservative growth forecasts tells us something, or nothing. I honestly don’t know and don’t know how to find out.

To be fair, DataDog has been a top technically-savvy company for years, is positioned well for both handling new AI workloads as well as providing AI tools for monitoring all workloads, and with its consumption-based business model, would seem to not have to worry about per-seat AI-agent business model upheavals. But, having their largest customer reduce their spend (I wouldn’t expect a complete termination of service) would hurt.

Is that enough to avoid investing in DataDog? I think it’s a risk of which one should be aware but I don’t think it’s disqualifying on its own.

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That’s fair, @Smorgasbord1. It’s a complex analysis to do, and we don’t have all the pieces from the outside looking in.

It is worth noting however, these facts reported on the company’s most recent conference call:

  • AI native customer count now at 65
  • AI natives contributing $1M+ in ARR up to 19 vs. 15 just last quarter
  • 70% of the top 20 AI companies are now DDOG customers.

Past is not prologue, but it can certainly point the way.

ActonUp

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I think you dropped a zero there, the AI customer count is 650.

Additionally, from the ER call:

We see more AI-native customers using Datadog, with about 650 customers in this group. And we are seeing these customers grow with us, including 19 customers spending $1 million or more annually with Datadog. Among our AI customers are the largest companies in this space. As of today, 14 of the top 20 AI-native companies are Datadog customers.

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TMFer Brian Stoffel recommends Cloudflare and explains the criteria he’s using to distinguish the software winners from losers:

He talks about what he calls “the silent rot” of companies - where switching costs keep their existing customers as customers, but new entrants who embrace the new technology from the start will grab new customer business. And so, the old companies will silently and slowly lose business, first seen as slowing growth rates.

While I’ve seen a lot of resistance to AI Agents usage expressed as “these companies won’t vibe code their own AI or even their own AI agents,” what I see coming are a lot of new AI-Agent startups, with sales pitches like “Use our AI Agents in your business to reduce ServiceNow costs by 50%!”

This seems like a wide open market for small startups with only 1 or 2 people selling AI Agents that reduce the costs for businesses using legacy cloud software.

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@Smorgasbord1 thanks for sharing! I totally agree re Cloudflare. I think it will be interesting to monitor Snowflake, Datadog, and MongoDB. Interesting enough even Fastly is benefiting from the agentic AI and AI related workloads, their stock went up 100%.

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Analysts have talked about DataDog and its one large customer, suspected to be OpenAI, with concerns about potentially losing that customer.

Palo Alto Networks reported, stock is down, partially due to its acquisition of Chronosphere, which is also an observability company.

Here’s a video this evening, cued to the spot where PA Networks’ CEO talks about the acquisition and a new LLM customer it just signed for 9 figures (so $100m or more):

He claims this LLM provider “will be replacing an incumbent provider.” Could that be DataDog?

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@Smorgasbord1 thats interesting. I think the 2nd part of the video gives us some idea that despite the AI companies being technical enough and being able to come up with their own tools are at least for the moment they are choosing to use 3rd party solutions. Also, I went over Datadog investor’s day transcript and they talk about the training cost and proprietary model they built for their AI capabilities. I haven’t been following ddog for at least the last couple of quarters and just putting them on my radar.

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TL;DR: A potential situation like this is actually pretty much standard in the software industry. Do you want to go full DIY or something in between (that is for example Chronosphere), where you still need to do the major lift of extracting intelligence from your observability data, or do you want to focus on getting ahead in this AI race and pay someone like Datadog so your own engineers can focus on getting you to your actual goal?

While we can’t tell which company switched to Chronosphere and from which company did they moved away, we can use this as a thought experiment and for the following discussion just pretend that “LLM Company XY” churned from Datadog and switched to Chronosphere: So, I would assume that LLM Company XY decided to switch to Chronosphere, primarily to lower cost. The 9 figure deal with Chronosphere is a multi-year deal. Since they are a large model provider, I estimate that they would have spent up to $30M per year with Datadog, before switching (OpenAI, which is Datadog’s biggest AI native customer brings about 80-90% of the AI native revenue to Datadog, with an estimated spending of $300M per year, this leaves about $30M (~10% of ~300M) for LLM Company XY. Note: if LLM Company XY did churn from Datadog, it was most certainly not Open AI, because first, they just renewed their contract with Datadog, second, they collaborate with Datadog and third, they are way to deeply integrated with Datadog to be able to just pull the plug). So we are talking about a potential ~$7.5M impact per quarter for Datadog. Certainly significant, even though their sales last quarter was $953M, so ~0.8%. Given the timing of the potential churn, I wouldn’t be surprised Datadog already knew or at least suspected this when they reported on Feb. 10, so that could explain some of the “more conservative” revenue guide? (Which, by the way is also “excluding our largest customer”, (which is OpenAI) and yet it is a higher YoY percentage guide than they gave in their initial FY25 guide a year ago.)

The more interesting question to maybe ask is why did LLM Company XY move from Datadog to Chronosphere? (again assuming this is actually what happened.) And what does that mean for other current or potential future AI native or other customers of Datadog?

The easiest explanation is that LLM Company XY did lean heavily into OpenTelemetry (OTel, which is open source telemetry gathering technology). Because they instrumented their code using an open standard rather than the Datadog SDK, they could simply flip a switch and instead of sending their data to Datadog’s servers, they pointed it toward Chronosphere. OpenAI (and many other AI native customers), however, are deeply integrated with Datadog’s specific features, like their Agents, AI App Monitoring and GPU-specific dashboards. Moving would mean rebuilding thousands of dashboards and custom alerts from scratch, not even to speak about losing the value of Datadog’s proprietary AI Agents. LLM Company XY’s problem could have been that during large-scale training runs, like for a new LLM version, the sheer volume of telemetry created a huge bill, while with Chronosphere’s solution they could only keep the error metrics. Datadog’s pricing model, which charges per-metric-ingested, made this level of cost-cutting much harder to achieve (more on that at the end). So why doesn’t OpenAI and other AI natives just leave Datadog for the same reason? Or why would new potential customers choose Datadog over Chronosphere?

It’s simple: If you have or want to hire a team of engineers to focus them on getting insights from your open source telemetry, and you are ok not getting the quality of observability and the insights that Datadog can offer, then you can use OTel (open source telemetry gathering, but, critically, not interpretation of this data), and basically do observability all by yourself.

But wait a minute, why would you then even need Chronosphere at all? Again, simple: Chronosphere has technology that allows their customers to drop the vast majority of their data volume before it needs to be stored, so you aren’t paying to store “garbage” data you’ll never look at.

So, the bottom line is that this situation is actually pretty much standard in the software industry. Do you want to go full DIY or something in between (that is for example Chronosphere), where you still need to do the major lift of extracting intelligence from your observability data, or do you want to focus on getting ahead in this AI race and pay someone like Datadog so your own engineers can focus on getting you to your actual goal?

OK, there is one last piece to this puzzle, that irked me: Does Datadog have somewhat of an innovator’s dilemma? What Chronosphere offers is great, why wouldn’t you want to throw away useless data and save money on storage? But if Datadog would offer this service then they would hurt their own revenues. And if they don’t, they will be at risk that someone else will come and offer it, together with tools that extract intelligence from the remaining data.

Well, it turns out that, Datadog launched their own “Observability Pipelines” to compete directly with Chronosphere’s Control Plane. It’s an at-the-edge worker that sits in your cluster. It allows you to filter, sample, and redact data before it hits Datadog’s cloud. While this technically reduces their ingestion revenue, Datadog charges a separate fee for the pipeline itself. They are essentially saying: “We’d rather you pay us a smaller, predictable fee to manage your data reduction than have you pay Chronosphere to do it.” Even if a customer uses Datdog’s observability pipeline to drop 80% of their raw metrics, they still need Datadog’s Bits AI SRE Agent to investigate the remaining 20% and they are betting that if they give you the tools to save money on storage, you’ll spend those savings on their more expensive AI Agent tools.

I hope this analysis helps to put a bit more color into how Datadog operates!

-Ben

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Reports are that OpenAI is spending $150M+ with DataDog each year.

AI changes this equation dramatically. For instance, Anthropic is using Claude Code to create 90% of Claude Code.

I see no reason why OpenAI, or any of the “LLM Hyperscalers” (my term), can’t use their product to first instrument the code and then a) provide the dashboards they want, followed by b) analyzing the problems and suggesting, if not actually authoring, fixes.

I know very little about the space, but considering there’s already an Open Source telemetry gathering standard, it would make sense for these LLM companies to use that for instrumentation, then first use a commercial product like Chronosphere, later transitioning to its own dashboards, created using itself.

How many engineers at OpenAI would you estimate are today focused mostly on using DataDog to find/fix issues? Pulling one out to create similar dashboards and alerts using Codex seems like a small pull to me.

I believe it’s a question of when, not if. OpenAI and Anthropic are going after software development first, because it speeds up their own development. Next, they’ll look at what else they use for operations and go after those. And then they’ll look at other verticals. Actually, they’ve already started some verticals, like contract review.

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Hi Smorg,

the $30M figure was not to imply the potential churn came from Open AI (Which as far as I know spends around $300M per year with Datadog). I rephrased the post above to remove the confusion.

A last point regarding Datadog being disrupted or not (and when, if at all).

Datadog has very unique moat: By collecting and training on traces, logs, metrics, and security signals from over 1000 different enterprises, Datadog creates a data environment that makes its AI agents very effective. While general foundation models typically don’t have access to real-world production systems (other than their own), Datadog’s models are trained on trillions of data points, making their insights difficult to replicate for any siloed tool. This is the very definition of a strong Network Effects moat.

Of course, there is always a risk of disruption with any business. And I agree, when we talk about software, the risk of disruption has very significantly increased for all the software companies out there. I guess we’ll all have to weigh this increased risk when investing into software companies these days…

-Ben

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But that’s kind of the whole point with regards to OpenAI continuing as a customer of DataDog. Presumably, learning from its own system should be good enough for OpenAI’s own use.

I’ve been a follower of Tesla for a decade and a half now. Bulls such as myself have touted Tesla’s data advantage - millions of cars driving tens of billions of miles. However, just last month we saw the Nvidia-Mercedes partnership demo a vehicle that drove about as well as what Tesla FSD was doing early last year - and this was done in fewer years and with a lot less real-world data as input. Today, curating gathered data is the first step in any autonomy project, because the truth is that if a billion miles of highway data are collected, 99.99% is redundant, and Nvidia is heavily using synthesized data to train now.

So, it’s even possible that it wouldn’t take long for a competitor to capture enough data to have a good training set, and especially with regards to the kinds of alerts all these systems are setup for should be a well-known set to pretty much everyone in the space.

As a side note, training on more data is good, but that’s not the definition of “network effects,” which is when a product gets more useful to users the more users that use it. Like EBay or Facebook. DataDog may have data moat, but saying it has a Network Effects moat is, to me anyway, quite a stretch.

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This is a very long thread that covers a lot of ground though the last several posts seem to focus on Datadog, so maybe this comment risks being almost off topic - which was supposed to be “thoughts on the s/w sell off” or something like that . . .

Despite that, I felt compelled to address the comment about AppLovin’s moat. Bear’s comment seems to imply that APP’s competitive barrier is AXON2, their AI powered ad placement technology - which is true, but only part of the wall a competitor would have to surmount. The rest of the story, which makes it far more difficult if not virtually impossible to assail APP’s customer grip is the incredibly rich and highly detailed database created by the billions of auction transactions collected from the use of MAX which dominates the SSP/DSP activity for mobile platforms.

You might compare this to the analogy of a offering a “better mousetrap.” The point is, even if a would be competitor claimed that they had created a tool that was superior to AXON, they still wouldn’t have the equivalent of the bait - the underlying database that feeds the learning functions of the decisioning tool. In short, I think AppLovin has a moat that is virtually unassailable - this is one of the primary reasons APP is by far my largest position. The other primary reason is that the AppLovin C-suite is among the best, if not the best management team I have seen in my years of investing. Adam Foroughi and team are incredibly smart and ruthless. I think it will be a long time coming before an artifical intelligence capability even approaches the human intelligence and creativity of this group.

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