Totally OT: My post-operative progress

I found “Painterland Sisters” brand at our local Sprouts store today. But it was $10 for a tub, so I will wait for it to go on sale to try it. Instead I bought a tub of Icelandic Provisions that was a more reasonable price ($5).

My ears a burning, why am I here? :slight_smile:

Rumor is that you can explain the process described in “I can make you a Man” song in the Rocky Horror Picture Show movie.

:grin:
ralph

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Ha ha ha…haven’t heard that in a long time. Looked up stream a little bit, but didn’t see any lifting questions. Now a days we have a new place with LOTS of rocks for me to carry around as I work on extending the new to us house. Still keeping the back and shoulders strong, but I really need to get back to getting my legs up to snuff again.

Hoping to throw a little bit maybe this summer, one year after my double by-pass in July '24. (It’s true I guess that all the exercise in the world won’t save you from heart issues if you are gonna get them, oh well.)

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Vee remembered from long ago

:flexed_biceps:
ralph

I remember you saying this a while back. So I’ve been dumping a tablespoon-ish of collagen my coffee every day. I’m not sure how long I’ve been doing this, but a while now.

This is anecdotal, but my nails are definitely stronger. No question. I believe my hair feels fuller. Not 100% sure on that, but my hair dresser says I have great hair for man of (cough) my age. Regardless, thanks for the tip. I’m of the opinion that if a grandmother says something, it is best to listen.

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I noticed this while washing my hair about 6 months after I began eating collagen. I have long hair that used to split at the ends – a messy look I hate which forced me to keep cutting my hair. Hair grows about 1 cm per month so it took about 2 years to fully grow in the new, collagen-reinforced hair which no longer splits.

Another factor is skin. Many older people have very thin skin which can literally split if they bump against something. My skin is so firm that the ladies at the swimming pool have complimented me. (They can see my inner upper arms which are often a tell-tale in older women.) I tell them I’m happy to share my secret – the base of the skin is reinforced with collagen. My face also doesn’t have any deep wrinkles that are often seen in people over age 70. (Neither did my grandmother who lived to age 89.)

Wendy

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Talking about coffee, I’ve been adding a few things to my coffee each morning for at least 5 years, I think I started just before COVID hit the USA (it was spurred by a researcher I know who began studying viruses 30, 40 years ago and mentioned it). I add a 1/8 tsp of ginger and 1/4 tsp of turmeric (curcumin) to my coffee. Then before my first sip, I place a small amount of finely ground black pepper (piperine) onto a spoon and then into my mouth and then I take the first sip of my coffee to wash the pepper down. Apparently pepper (piperine) is necessary for curcumin to be properly absorbed by the human body. And these things tend to be natural antivirals. I call it “golden coffee” (similar to “golden milk” that is consumed in some countries). It’s an ingrained habit at this point so I don’t even think about it anymore.

And I got a kick out of reading in Lessons In Chemistry about Elizabeth Zott saying “sprinkle both sides of the meat with sodium chloride and piperine”.

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Ginger is good for migraines. My wife takes it as a preventative.

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Do you feel you get a benefit from this?

I take only 1000 IU of vit D in the sunnier months and 2000 IU in the darker months.

We do not need anything.

We do not need all of our salesmen. Lovely chaps.

Somehow, I doubt the answer is going to be “No”

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“Changed my life, I can now hit the high notes in the shower”.

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Hmm … do I feel anything different in my body? No. But anti-inflammatories seem to be a worthwhile thing according to some research. The only reason I do this is because the guy I mentioned earlier was truly a medical researcher for his 40+ year career and he listed all his papers, and other papers, on the topic (curcumin). Do I mentally feel that it is healthful? Of course, yes, otherwise why would I bother doing it?

I’ve also gotten used to the taste of my morning coffee with those small additions. I don’t add any of those things to my afternoon coffee (which happens maybe twice a week).

In general I oppose the use of supplements. The US diet is rich in everything including almost all vitamins. And orally ingested supplements have a huge percentage of them simply pizzed out into the toilet bowl each day. They’re mostly a waste.

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I am glad to hear you are doing so much better. I am wondering if you have researched Coenzyme Q10 ? I want to believe in it but looking for data

What exactly do you want to believe (and why, I guess) …because, if you start your search with a desire to believe, you’ll certainly find data and marketing to support that desire.

I do take CoQ10 daily, BTW (well…almost daily). Not because I “believe” or even want to, come to that…but on the off chance that the explanations given for its value in my particular circumstances are valid. In other words, an enhanced Placebo Effect, I guess.

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I take a bunch of supplements.

Collagen for better skin, hair, nails, tendons. Grandma-recommended. Proved by my own demonstrable results. No way would I stop this and become a wrinkled old hag. :wink:

Vitamin D. I take 5,000 I.U. per day as an antidepressant. Tested blood level = 45 ng/ml, in the healthy range. If I don’t take this – nasty depression. I drop it in the summer when I get sun every day.

Fish oil. Recommended for cardio health. Angiogram shows clear coronary arteries so I guess it’s doing something.

Multivitamin – supplies nutrients that may be lacking though I eat a healthy, home-cooked diet.

Lite Salt (R) – 50% potassium chloride, 50% sodium chloride. I use it when cooking so I don’t know whether to include it as a supplement. Normalized blood pressure (last measured 114/72).

Milk of Magnesia – just before bed to help sleep.
Melatonin - 5 mg - same.

Taurine – reduce fatigue, increase energy – Taurine Benefits and Side Effects

d-ribose – support ATP synthesis. Recommended strongly for heart patients in the book, “Reverse Heart Disease Now.” I feel more energetic since I’ve been taking it.

Co-Q10 (Qunol brand) - ditto

This is in addition to my many prescriptions for assorted problems. My sister says I’m the healthiest-looking sick woman she knows.

Gotta run – Zumba class starting!
Wendy

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I may have overstated my general opposition to supplements. I was thinking of those large multi-vitamins that people tend to take, or the large handful of vitamins with each meal. Those are mostly and almost immediately excreted in the urine.

My grandmother who lived to 93 had excellent supple skin until the day she died. But she never took a supplement of any sort. Instead she continued cooking the old European way after arriving to the USA a few years after the war. So she wasn’t afraid of fat, and she surely included the collagen from the meats she used in her dishes. I never saw her skim the fat off her chicken soup (that would be sacrilege). And until well into the 2000s, she always had a jar of chicken fat in the freezer. It’s collagen and not fearing fat that keeps the skin looking good.

I also use lite-salt, not to reduce sodium but to increase potassium. I would eat bananas more regularly, but they have way too much sugar and I wouldn’t allow myself to eat enough of them. I eat plenty of veggies with potassium. But I still experienced leg cramps periodically. Once I started taking additional potassium (via lite salt), and adding a little magnesium periodically (yes, sometimes in supplement form), I haven’t had leg cramps much at all. So it worked.

As far as sleep goes, I think I’m a little odd. I go to sleep when tired, and I use my phone in bed (6 days a week) or read in bed (Friday nights) all the time (against ALL the common, and good, advice). And when I put my phone or my book on the nightstand, and put my head down on the pillow, I almost always fall asleep within 30 or 60 seconds. But the key is that I only go to sleep when tired, not at some specific time. Some days it might be 10pm, some days midnight, and some days 3am (most Saturday nights because I nap almost every Saturday afternoon). And I wake up … when my eyes open in the morning. I never EVER wake up in middle of the night for any reason (my new doctor asked me twice if I don’t wake up in middle of the night to urinate, and I had to emphasize that NOTHING wakes me up at night. Ever.)

I took losartan for almost 2 years until I determined that it did nothing for me. I took my BP 3X day before, during, and after taking the medication, and the data appears to be about the same. I still take my BP once or twice a day to get it recorded into my health app.

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Is it still high?

I’m assuming that’s why you were prescribed Losartan in the first place. Did your doctor give any reason for continuing to prescribe a medication that was apparently not working…given that there are so many effective, minimal side effect treatments for high blood pressure these days.