# Trouble in the UK

**URL:** <https://discussion.fool.com/t/trouble-in-the-uk/93683>\
**Category:** Macro Economic Trends and Risks\
**Created:** [June 20, 2023, 4:52pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/trouble-in-the-uk/93683 "2023-06-20T16:52:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Divitias](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/divitias/32/9302_2.png) [@Divitias](https://discussion.fool.com/u/Divitias)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 4:52pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/trouble-in-the-uk/93683/1 "2023-06-20T16:52:06Z")

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I’ve been watching the unrest in the UK’s bond market for some months now and it is showing no sign of settling down:

> Britain’s government bond market has seen its heaviest sell-off since last autumn’s “mini-budget” crisis, lifting two-year borrowing costs to their highest since July 2008 - but investors say there’s far less reason for panic than last year, and maybe even a bargain.

> **[Soaring UK bond yields don't herald repeat of 'mini-budget' chaos](https://www.reuters.com/markets/rates-bonds/soaring-uk-bond-yields-dont-herald-repeat-mini-budget-chaos-2023-06-15/)**
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> Britain's government bond market has seen its heaviest sell-off since last autumn's "mini-budget" crisis, lifting two-year borrowing costs to their highest since July 2008 - but investors say there's far less reason for panic than last year, and...

On June 22nd it is likely that the Chancellor will put interest rates up to 4.75% or possibly 5% to settle the markets. This will, however, put a massive strain on the property market where rates are shooting up on a daily basis:

> It comes as average rates on two-year fixed deals soared further above 6 per cent today. This means a typical borrower will have to pay around £300 a month more for repayments than they would have done if looking for a similar mortgage a year ago.

[https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/martin-lewis-warns-that-interest-rate-hikes-are-crippling-homeowners/ar-AA1cMUwi](https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/martin-lewis-warns-that-interest-rate-hikes-are-crippling-homeowners/ar-AA1cMUwi)

Until last year I was in business as a Chartered Accountant and Chartered Tax Adviser. I use to warn countless people about the dangers of large mortgages and the possibility of interest rate rises. I don’t believe one person took any notice of me, all they saw was that large new house. No one under about forty years of age has ever seen anything but falling interest rates and there was a general attitude that ‘they would never dare put rates up’. Others just used their house an an ATM machine to be raided when a holiday or car was to be paid for.

The situation is getting so bad that people are suggesting that the government help people with mortgages out - unlikely, but that’s what people expect post- covid. Endless bailouts.

Times are changing!

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**Author:** ![buynholdisdead](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/buynholdisdead/32/12874_2.png) [@buynholdisdead](https://discussion.fool.com/u/buynholdisdead)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 4:57pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/trouble-in-the-uk/93683/2 "2023-06-20T16:57:12Z")

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> [@Divitias](#):
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> I use to warn countless people about the dangers of large mortgages and the possibility of interest rate rises.

Where they taking out variable loans or fixed? Because if they were fixed it might have been the best thing ever.

Andy

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**Author:** ![bjurasz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/bjurasz/32/7233_2.png) [@bjurasz](https://discussion.fool.com/u/bjurasz)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 4:59pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/trouble-in-the-uk/93683/3 "2023-06-20T16:59:26Z")

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> [@buynholdisdead](#):
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> Where they taking out variable loans or fixed? Because if they were fixed it might have been the best thing ever.

I don’t think the UK has long-term mortgages like the US does, but I could be wrong.

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**Author:** ![Divitias](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/divitias/32/9302_2.png) [@Divitias](https://discussion.fool.com/u/Divitias)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 5:30pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/trouble-in-the-uk/93683/4 "2023-06-20T17:30:32Z")

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> [@bjurasz](#):
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> I don’t think the UK has long-term mortgages like the US does, but I could be wrong.

That is correct. two to five year fixed are the most popular. People have recently been desperate to get fixed rate mortgages but these have been vanishing like snow in July. The other week one of our biggest mortgage lenders, HSBC, suspended mortgage lending twice in one week to adjust rates.

> Nearly 10% of UK mortgage deals have been taken off the market since last week amid concerns about how high interest rates will go, figures show.

> **[Nearly 800 mortgage deals pulled amid uncertainty over rates](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65752400)**
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> Lenders are "reassessing" their offers amid concerns about how high interest rates will go.

One of my ex-clients called to do a job the other week and he was concerned. He had built a small buy to let portfolio with interest only loans from The Bank of Ireland @ 1.99%. He didn’t look happy so I didn’t remind him that ‘I told you so’.

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**Author:** ![Leap1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/motleyfoolfree/user_avatar/discussion.fool.com/leap1/32/72176_2.png) [@Leap1](https://discussion.fool.com/u/Leap1)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 12:17pm UTC](https://discussion.fool.com/t/trouble-in-the-uk/93683/5 "2023-06-22T12:17:02Z")

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The US real estate market is also topping out. Things could not be better. Sure…
