Trump issues order to fire 200,000 probationary workers within next 2 days

It would seem to me that this will cause a lot of bottlenecks and inefficiency, like when the State of Alabama made it illegal to be a Mexican in the state and all the farm workers left town.

Give them what they voted for – good and hard.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2025/02/13/trump-administration-fires-probationary-federal-workers/

{{ The Trump administration has directed agency heads to fire most trial period and probationary staff within two days, taking aim at many of the roughly 200,000 people hired by the federal government within the last two years, according to four people familiar with internal conversations who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to speak publicly. }}

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How do you designate someone probationary if they have been working for 2 years? I can’t wait to see what happens to the VA hospitals on this one. Hard to keep people working there.

Edit: not sure if that 2 years is a true time limit. I think they meant 1 year.

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I heard one year is the probation period in the Federal government. NPR

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Maybe they mean fiscal years. The last 12 months includes the current fiscal year and part of the previous one. The WaPo article says that

The latest data shows there were more than 220,000 federal employees within their one-year probationary period as of last March, according to Fedscope.

DB2

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200k just the down payment.

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Plus 60K with the early retirement program.

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If I sit back, and take a long view, this might not be a bad thing.

As pondered before, if a state refuses to fund education adequately, for instance, why does that become the Federal government’s problem? Seems that, ever since Nixon’s “revenue sharing”, states have learned to lean, very hard, on Washington’s infinite checkbook. A little bit of “personal responsibility” for the states might not be a bad thing.

Then reality hits: the objective is not to pay down the debt, but take all the money “saved” by defunding programs that benefit the general population, and give it all to the “JCs”.

Steve…well, it was a nice dream while it lasted

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Most of the Education Dept budget goes to disabled kids requiring special education programs, and most of the funding goes to Red States that tend to short change this kind of activity.

Give them what they voted for – good and hard.

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I found out that some jobs in the Government have a 1 year probation and others have a 2 year probation. So depending on the job.

I’m guessing “Grant funded” jobs are on the chopping block.

That’s always a low hanging fruit.

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ralph

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People are not required to live in a particular state. So those states that choose to essentially have no real education standard foist the cost of their negligence onto others–specifically the federal govt if the person does NOT leave. If the person goes to another state, he/she may be entirely unemployable due to their lack of education. So it becomes a national issue if states do not meet minimum educational standards. Pretty simple to fix: Tie payments to the state based on students educational abilities. Suddenly, the $$$ bell in the bureaucrats’ heads rings when you tie money to delivering real education to students based on performance.

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Several years ago, Toyota built a new plant, in Canada. One of the contributing factors to the Canadian location was the company found the workforce in the southern US, where their earlier plant is, were generally illiterate.

We tried to set minimum standards with “common core”. It was demonized.

We tried that, with #41’s “no child left behind”, so schools teach to the test, and everything else was cut, like shop classes and driver’s ed.

Some states are determined to not fund education, beyond “the three Rs”, and “Bible study”. So…let them wallow in ignorance and superstition. They seem to prefer it to “woke”.

Steve…like I said, maybe a dose of “personal responsibility” on state officials.

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The Department of Veterans Affairs today announced the dismissal of more than 1,000 employees.

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Those dismissed today include non-bargaining unit probationary employees who have served less than a year in a competitive service appointment or who have served less than two years in an excepted service appointment.

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They don’t care. Very little is spent on that welfare group by state plan. So there is no reason to change unless there is an incentive to actually increase the overall education (and thus employability) of students in the state. That will bring more jobs that pay more because they have the workforce that can learn based on their education.

The DOEd spends about $15 billion on special ed programs out of their total budget of almost $250 billion, so about 6%.
https://www.usaspending.gov/agency/department-of-education?fy=2024

State and local level spending is greater.

Districts cumulatively spent $38.8 billion on special education, equating to an average cost of $13,127 per student identified for special education services. Those districts received $10.0 billion in dedicated special education state revenue ($3,388 per pupil) and $4.6 billion in dedicated federal revenue ($1,578 per pupil) in FY20.

The difference between these districts’ special education spending and their dedicated federal and state special education revenue is $24.1 billion, equal to an average local responsibility of $8,160 per student identified for special education services.

DB2

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Next month’s unemployment numbers will be

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The unemployment numbers in the coming months will be interesting.

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