UK Professor claims Musk is wrong again

The professor claims the more you waste and the more debt you have the richer you are. Those are NOT his words but that is the message he is sending. No need to cut waste and don’t worrty about debt, it’s a self sustaining system. Why on earth do governments insure bank deposits if nothing can go wrong?

In the second video he sets up an accounting system that demonstrates that the system is infallible. As long as every business has paying customers the system works but what happens when no one wants to buy a company’s products? The company can’t pay its debts and the system goes into reverse gear. Somehow the professor misses that point.

One needs to understand money. When you make widgets that people want you earn money. In other words, you create wealth, society is in debt to you for the wealth you create. In that sense, money is debt. At any moment you can use that money to get stuff from other wealth creators. That was the end of the story of money until the invention of fractional reserve banking. If banks are required to have a 10% reserve every $100 deposited can create $900 worth of loans.

Deposit Loan
$100.00 $90.00
$90.00 $81.00
$81.00 $72.90
$72.90 $65.61
$65.61 $59.05
$59.05 $53.14
$53.14 $47.83
$47.83 $43.05
$43.05 $38.74
$38.74 $34.87
$34.87 $31.38
$31.38 $28.24
$28.24 $25.42
$25.42 $22.88
$22.88 $20.59
$20.59 $18.53
$18.53 $16.68
$16.68 $15.01
$15.01 $13.51
$13.51 $12.16
$12.16 $10.94
$10.94 $9.85
$9.85 $8.86
$8.86 $7.98
$7.98 $7.18
$7.18 $6.46
$6.46 $5.81
$5.81 $5.23
$5.23 $4.71
$4.71 $4.24
$4.24 $3.82
$3.82 $3.43
$3.43 $3.09
$3.09 $2.78
$2.78 $2.50
$2.50 $2.25
$2.25 $2.03
$2.03 $1.82
$1.82 $1.64
$1.64 $1.48
$1.48 $1.33
$1.33 $1.20
$1.20 $1.08
Sum $890.30

but that does not guarantee that the borrowers can pay it back. because no wealth has been created. If depositors ask for $101 the whole scheme collapses. To solve the problem the government prints fake, I mean, fiat money. Money that was not created by producing wealth. Wealth stays the same but more dollars circulate. How does society fix it? By lowering the value of money, a.k.a. inflation or devaluation, depending on your point of view.

The system is only sustainable as long as society produces enough wealth to maintain it. If not you get recessions or depressions, and bankruptcies which bring the system back in balance

“Elon Musk Is Wrong” Top Economist Warns

“Elon Musk is Wrong Again” Top Economist Warns the US

The Captain

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Musk is going off the deep end. This isn’t going to end well.

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Money becomes debt (to the buyer) when it is used to buy a widget or a service (the buyer now has less money). At the same time, the provider of the widget or service now has more money and less debt. Thus, money can be either more or less debt, i.e., a method of transfer.

DB2

Musk is going AFTER the deep end. It mighy end well.

The Captain

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Not when you pick a fight with all the world leaders. What he isn’t thinking is that he is annoying a majority of the people. I have seen this before. Give a narcissist a big enough rope and eventually they hang themselves.

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Musk isn’t actually a member of the government and has no official position. He is an informal advisor to the executive branch.

That said, WE ALREADY HEARD THIS WHOLE SONG AND DANCE BACK IN 2016! And they are using almost the exact same words, too.

We were told that running the government was easier than running a business and the first step was to simply get rid of the “stupid people.”

Of course someone needed to be appointed to make the government more efficient. And it needed a snappy acronym, like DOGE. They called it the Government Effectiveness Advanced Research Center (GEAR). GEAR was extremely efficient in doling out government money to well-connected campaign contributors so they ponder about the nature of government.

And everyone’s favorite boogeyman: The budget deficit. He promised to balance the budget in five years, maybe sooner! Even better, he was going to eliminate the entire federal debt in only eight years!

Of course, all this would be made possible by all the amazing trade deals he was going to negotiate.

Now were hearing the exact same incredible promises again, nearly word for word. And people still believe him! As intercst says “never bet against the ignorance and innumeracy of the American people.”

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Not enough thumb’s up for this.

This is how we identify a cult of personality, both with TNG and Leon.

We’ve elected an insurrectionist who failed his oath to the Constitution and we would not hold him accountable for what he did. Instead, we elected him again. It was a nice run, but this is the end.

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I don’t pay any attention to what economists say, frankly,” Buffett said two years ago. “Well, think about it. You have all these economists with 160 IQs that spend their life studying it, can you name me one super-wealthy economist that’s ever made money out of securities? No.

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I figure “economists” are more useful as “confirmation”. You first decide what you want to do, like cut “JC” taxes. Then you find an economist with a theory, like Laffer, that you can use to legitimize what you already decided you want to do.

Steve

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There is no need to look for “confirmation” from economists.

Maybe studying the economy is what makes economists happy, not making money from securities (or anything else). With all due respect to WB, who I adore. Just a thought that crossed by.

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Dip is talking about the $1 tr per 3 months.

Then he wants his tax cut.

Zip dip. Zip it.

The debt to real GDP ratio is what matters.

Everyone with an agenda, is searching for “confirmation” to legitimize their agenda.

From time to time, I have mentioned one of my favorite books “How To Lie With Statistics”, published when I was a mere lad, but still relevant today.

From the Amazon review:

“The secret language of statistics, so appealing in a fact-minded culture, is employed to sensationalize, inflate, confuse, and oversimplify,” warns Huff.

Or, as someone else said, more simply “figures don’t lie, but liars sure can figure”

Steve

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Blind? Totally blind?

click on 5 years to see the period.

US Manufacturing Construction Spending Monthly Trends: Construction Spending | YCharts.

Yeah. The blue bus was calling us, now we have to ride the snake.

Musk is picking fights with Germany, England, and Ukraine’s government. It usually goes something like “Free Speech”. I wonder why he doesn’t say anything about China? It is only going to get uglier.

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“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results,”

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Unless you are criticizing Elon of course. Then he bans you, makes it so you cannot make money on his platform, etc.

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What could go wrong with a petulant man-child billionaire pulling all the strings?

We saw a Twilight Zone episode over New Years that reminded me of Musk -

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There is now a new tool, supplied by TIG’s supporters, that can be used. Let’s see who wants to hang around…