Fair enough. I picked the wrong set of bad actors based on some earlier comment.
–Peter
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Speaking of which … [see next post]
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That’s a funny one. Project Veritas is a right-wing activist organization posing as a news source. They have been caught attempting to plant false stories in other news outlets.
Project Mendacium would be a better name.
–Peter
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I enjoy Veritas once in a while - for a good laugh.
Pete
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Shared drives for top secret data!
My god, the things people believe because they read it on the internet!
Hysterical.
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No more conspiracy theories please. This was meant to be a thread about covid treatment, not any ideas people randomly have about Bill Gates taking over the world or whatever.
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That’s my whole point the only treatment for the coronavirus is the shot all other treatments were buried and covered up, that’s how you know they have evil intent.
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Thank you pete. I saw this post about 1 second after researching O’Keefe as I thought the name sounded familiar. Something about dressing like a pimp about 10-12 years ago to “expose” something at a government office.
Anyway, I don’t see how any of that military paperwork contradicts Fauci’s testimony. If he wasn’t in on it he answered the question factually. He’s not in the military and his name does not appear in the documents as an “operator.” The juxtaposition of facts with the intention to deceive is fraud which is a form of lying. (In business it’s called advertising or “I’m just trying to make a living.”)
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Master, what else would you like to command? I’m at your service, free of charge, Master.
Your Humble Servant
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Master, what else would you like to command? I’m at your service, free of charge, Master.
I’m starting to wonder if TMF might need an age verification filter at sign up
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Happily, the P-box has a Forever option for individuals being foolish… This thread exposed a couple, pretty sad, actually, but, sometimes pruning is beneficial, long term…
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Tyson on the broader question of science, vs demagogue driven superstition.
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Of course, demagogue driven superstition can only thrive in ignorance, as the foundation of faith is the total lack of evidence…
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Look, if you are really going to double down on your position then you should at very least read the full context of Fauci’s statement. It is from a Face the Nation interview on 11/28/2021. Transcript: Dr. Anthony Fauci on "Face the Nation," November 28, 2021 - CBS News
It is a long interview with the “…I represent science” quote about 3/4 of the way through. It gives a pretty good insight into the trials and tribulations Fauci faced.
My reading of this interview is that your statement is totally wrong. What Fauci is talking about is the current rejection by many Americans of science and data-based methods for identifying truth. Fauci was made the most prominent spokesperson for the majority scientific perspective on the pandemic, a perspective based on the best available data at the time. Therefore, he feels that the vitriolic criticism he is facing, mostly from people with little to no expertise in the relevant fields, is an attack on the credibility of the scientific community.
> “…lies become normalized now, and the social media amplifies the normalisation of lies. So scientists try to say this is the truth, and it’s based on data. That’s what we live by, data, evidence, truth. And then you all of a sudden have permeating in society, it is OK to say anything you want that is patently, obviously wrong. And if you say it long enough and often enough and you get social media involved, then everybody- not everybody, X percent of the population starts believing it. See, that’s what I worry about more than people throwing slings and arrows at me because my whole life has been as a scientist and I identify with the field of health and science. And if you’re attacking me, you’re really attacking science…”
The folks attacking Fauci don’t know him personally, so they aren’t really attacking him. They are attacking what he is saying, and what he is saying is the majority POV of the scientific community.
One final point. There are lots of disagreement between scientists on the details of the pandemic and no one is trying censor or discredit those who oppose the majority POV. The scientific method is alive and well. But that is different from the idiocy going on in social media and the mass media by folks who have no relevant expertise yet are very sure of their opinions. That nonsense is to legitimate criticisms of scientific hypotheses as a mob lynching is to justice.
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