Why is the Title of my Post being changed syke6? Why is this Macro Economic issue considered off topic?

Two of my posts dealing with the macro economics of abortion have been flagged and deleted. It was stated that economics of abortion is off topic. I do not understand this illogical conclusion. Shall we next see economics of inflation, war, medical care, social security, environment, military, pollution and taxes also be considered off topic on this board?
Jaak :-1: :rage:

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How does abortion impact the economy. Lower birth rate implied. Medical costs not large.

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Billions of dollars are spent every year by individuals and government agencies to provide life saving medical services for women.
Reasons for abortion include medical services to abort for rape, incest, fetal health, mental health of women, social and economic reasons.

No matter what laws you write reproductive health is still out there and does not go away. Health care and the law has to deal with it. No alternatives.

Jaak,

Your trying to pretend that murdering unborn children was merely ā€œa macro-econā€ issue rather than a matter of personal morality and personal ethics about which there are widely differing and highly divisive points of view is probably why your posts were flagged and deleted.

Yes, for sure. Nearly every choice us humans make has econmic consequences that affect others, some beneficially so, some detrimentally so. But why ā€œstir the potā€ by bring up the abortion debate just before the election when it is well known which side of the debate each condidate favors?

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I guess we all know now where you stand on the issue, and the reason abortion is not a great topic for METaR since the resulting debate on that phrase alone is likely unproductive.

Pete

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The US govt has seen a significant death rate among newborns as a result of the denial of abortion. So the anti-abortionists are (by their own definition) knowingly performing ā€œpost-birth abortionsā€.

The fact there are fewer live babies AFTER anti-abortion laws passed was posted here, on TMF.

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I thought that was the Catholic Churchā€™s position. Not that it is backed up anywhere.

The right to abortion is a macroeconomic issue in the United States as demonstrated by the following facts:

The average woman seeking an abortion is on a low-income, in her 20s and already a parent. Of the nearly 900,000 abortions carried out each year in America, 49 per cent are undertaken by women who live at or below the federal poverty line. Poor women are five times more likely to experience an unwanted pregnancy, according to the Brookings Institution.

Abortion is not a cheap option with costs ranging from a few hundred dollars for an abortion pill to $1,500 medical procedures later in the pregnancy, according to Planned Parenthood.

Yet the cost of giving birth and raising a child is far greater. In 2020, 42 per cent of parents used the government healthcare scheme Medicaid to assist with basic birth costs.

In America the average cost of giving birth is more than $13,000, according to the Health Care Cost Institute. Even those with health insurance are required to pay on average $4,500.

These high costs, and those associated with pre- and post-natal check-ups, have contributed to America having one of the highest maternal mortality rates in the developed world ā€“ and this rate is three-times higher for black Americans than for white.

The costs mount after birth. In many states, workplace provision for paid family leave is scarce, as are subsidized schooling for children under five and other parental benefits. Childcare for infants and toddlers averages more than $1,300 per month per child.

Across the southern states, where anti-abortion laws have already been triggered, 20 to 30 per cent of children live in poverty ā€“ four to six times the national average of 5.6 per cent.

https://www.chathamhouse.org/publications/the-world-today/2022-06/counting-cost-abortion-ban

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Your posts were aborted! :clown_face:

The Captain

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Almost. They were post-birth abortions, or first degree murder.

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Worse! Murdered hours after birth!

Hawkwin
Making things worse one day at a time.

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I did not flag articles about abortion. I consider this to have Macroeconomic significance since the birth rate affects the demographics and labor force balance. I donā€™t know who flagged the articles.

Wendy

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We have a new guy who calls it ā€œmurdering an unborn childā€. Of the Yiddish persuasion. That is an interesting story in and of itself. I can not follow it.

First, thanks for sharing your strong opinions and feelings. I think your reply demonstrates how we ended up in our current predicament.

Abortion is an extremely complex issue. Statesā€™ attempts to restrict abortion have resulted in lots of negative outcomes, including macroeconomic effects.

Clearly abortion is not merely a macroeconomics issue, as you stated, itā€™s a matter of personal morality and personal ethics. This is similar to the debate regarding the legalization of marijuana. And this reply will be deleted in 3ā€¦2ā€¦1.

If you are a young woman facing the probability of 30 years in low paying jobs, read sub livable wage jobs, because you have an unwanted birth, then it is a life sentence. That is what it is economically for millions of women.

If someone else has an opinion they can not rationally contain they need to mind their own business.

We have some folks who have sprung a serious leak in the contain irrational opinions department.

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So, whose rubber ruler will be usedā€“and why? Explain in detail.

Increasing the new-post mortality rate.

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ralph. Helping make things worse one day at a time

Actually a health insurance policy that excludes abortion & contraception services has a higher premium. The reason is that itā€™s far more expensive to birth an unwanted pregnancy than to cover the cost of an abortion.

intercst

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How much detail do you expect? I donā€™t think outsiders should force their opinions on other peopleā€™s pregnancies, unless theyā€™re willing to accept responsibility for raising the child.

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