Green didn’t mention Bidstack on the call, but he did indirectly address in-game advertising during his comments on the Disney partnership. The key for me was where he outlined the benefits of real-time info from programmatic ads during live events. Given the public tension between cable companies and sports networks (including Disney’s ESPN) over rights fees, this could indeed create a whole new growth lever for TTD. The quote:
Michael Levine
Congrats, again, on the quarter, Jeff. Terrific acceleration. I – wonderful to hear the detail about Amazon. But one of the other things that was interesting to see, come out this week was about the partnership with Disney. And also in the context of their, they’re basically bundling Disney Plus, ESPN Plus and Hulu ad supported at probably a much lower price point, then I think a lot of investors had expected. So love to hear your thoughts about that, and how impactful you think it could be to business?
Jeff Green
Fantastic. So as you know, Disney has been so aggressive in the last 18 months and it is actually so exciting to watch. A few years ago I was really touting between the forward thinking of AT&T and I feel just so excited by what Disney is doing as a partner and as a consumer as well. I think the new bundle they have coming out with Disney Plus and ESPN Plus and Hulu Plus for ads is really great.
And I think it’s going to be successful. But in about that same time about 18 months ago, they approached us and we just started working together. We learned something in those discussions, which is that more than 50% of the views that they’re getting on their content is coming from connected devices. And they wanted to figure out a better way to monetize that.
As somebody who’s watched them for a long time as an investor in their business, I’ve watched them try to figure out what happens – what do you do with ESPN in a world where cord cutting is happening and especially with just the business model that they have for ESPN, say a decade ago compared with today. It’s actually why I am so excited about this partnership because, one, we anticipate getting access to a significant amount of inventory as they become more digital, but also I think programmatic is better suited for live events than any other way of monetizing.
If you think about it, when a game goes into extra innings, it’s not really conducive to planning months in advance as to how many ads you’re going to see. And most advertisers are not going to spend a bunch of time thinking about, well, what if it goes into 13 innings [indiscernible] instead you make your plan and then often what those companies have had to do in the past is give away those ads, the extra innings for free. And so instead what they can do is in real-time check what demand is out there, and also make certain that, that those ads are relevant and not overly repetitive like they often are in those situations.
So, you make more money, make a better user experience. It’s really critical when more and more of the views are coming online. And the only way to support that content with the optimal user experience of today is to welcome programmatic demand, so that you get higher CPMs on each of those ad views. And it’s the reason why I think us and Disney are strategically sort of stuck with each other.
We have a fantastic partnership. It’s not because we don’t love working with each other. We absolutely love working with them, but it is strategically obvious that product, live content and the amazing offering that they have is going to continue to grow together. And our great partnership with Hulu, I think it’s just indicative of what’s to come. So, a lot of bullishness on our partnership with Disney.