A warning to Steve et al who thrive on Micky, Tim, Wendy and the King (As well as Hellman, Velveeta and Cheze Whip)

OTOH, everything tastes better deep-fried

Jeff
(Who has decided to fry his home-made falafel this evening instead of (heaven forbid) baking the balls - at least the home-made hummus is organic and the salad fresh)

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At least the oil you use for deep-frying your food at home is fresh and hasn’t been reused numerous times. This greatly reduces your consumption of trans fats, carcinogens, and oxidation products. Also, the food tastes better with fresh oil than with old, overused oil.

For those who still want their deep-fried fix, homemade is the way to go.

And then just filter it into your diesel car/truck, use all that energy!

Waste oils from various sources, fast food and specialty oil distributors that went out of date used to be given to a local farm to run their various trucks, tractors, but once they realized it’s value, they started charging for it…

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Velveeta on sale this week. Buy 2, get 1 free.

Velveeta might be 2 for 1, but Philadelphia Cream Cheese is like twice the price that it used to be nowadays.

'38Packard
==> likes his bagels with a “schemer” of cream cheese now and then

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2 for $5 or $6 regular store price. Costco less (6 for $12).

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@jerryab2

In the Boston area, it’s $7 for a small tub of the spreadable stuff. Way more than it used to be.

'38Packard

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In coastal NH I just paid $4.95 per tub for my Jalapeno Philadelphia cream cheese. Used to be $3.00, sometimes less. Local food place (family run) has an Asian chicken salad (a salad with chicken tenders essentially); used to be $13 - yesterday it was $19.50.

JimA

So, my wife who makes a great “New York” cheesecake has been using Neufchatel (also made by Philadelphia) for years in order to reduce the fat in the cake - and it tastes the same.

(My version of cheesecake is a Sicilian one made with ricotta - which is a whole 'nother story)

Jeff

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I LOVE a great NY cheesecake! One of my traditions at Thanksgiving is to make a wonderful pumpkin cheesecake each year. I start with a healthy dose of Bourbon… on a nice large ice ball… straight. For the baker!!

'38Packard

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I use the standard rectangle and spread it on an egg bagel. Lox if I want (Costco is best price again–$21 for 2x12-oz packages). Usual price elsewhere is $10-$12 per 8-oz package or near $4 for 3-oz.

If it is soy oil it has a defoaming agent in it. Good luck with that.

Jeff,

My mom used to do something similar with cream cheese in a cheese cake but it was a two layered cheesecake with another cheese as the two layer. Graham cracker crust?

Alright, you gave me a flashback to one of my favorite Bogart movies, where the plot kicks off when “Gloves Donahue” can’t get a slice of his favorite cheesecake. He starts wondering what happened to the baker who had not made his delivery that morning. Some good dialog too "Sunshine (William Demarest) contemplating his epitaph “here lies Sunshine under the sod. That’s not odd. He had no rod”.

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Similarly, it’s possible that a diet could be as “high quality” and unprocessed enough to satisfy the scrutiny of the most evangelical convert to healthy eating but still be obesogenic (excess body fat inducing)…and thereby increase the risk of dementia.

Whilst I don’t make a habit of frequenting fast food joints or deep frying my Mars Bars in months old corn oil, once I get stuck into the macadamia nuts, there’d be no stopping me if I let rip with my hedonistic impulses, so I’m not claiming any inate resistance to overeating. Still, as much as I’m a strong advocate for healthy eating choices, it’s pretty darn difficult… and disappointing to some of the diet gurus and those of us who believe in the “unprocessed is best” mantra … to demonstrate superiority of one diet over another in this regard when controlled for energy content.

The same cannot be said for the benefits of meaningful exercise so I guess that’s a consolidation.

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Speaking of Philadelphia Cream Cheese - Now hear this!!!

I wonder how that will play in a New York Cheesecake? Probably not so good…

'38Packard

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Yes it is. I think a contributing problem is the human tendency to go “all or nothing” when moderation is the more practical choice. But given the kind of society we have evolved into the solution to the obesity epidemic will likely only come with the development of an obesity-reducing pill. Self-discipline is just too hard.

On a related note, obesity has become the single most important contributor to dementia that the individual has control over.

It is indeed difficult. But is is ever so much more difficult when “everyone” around you (“society”) is making excuses for your not engaging in self-discipline. This applies to many more things than just obesity.

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I could never eat much Velveeta: it never seemed at all like real cheese - more ‘imitation’ than ‘cheese.’ It tasted as if it were one molecule away from plastic to me.

I don’t think it has a lot of nutritional value, either, and if I want to have something that is bad for me, I at least want it to taste good.

Pete

made me look… Not the same as when we were kids…