Some of you may know that unfilitered caffeine is bad for your cholesterol numbers. Coffee is a leading reason or better put cause for the use of statins. This was news to me. I can not find the NPR report so I will leave you with the NIH.
Filtered with what type of filter?
Paper or gold filter. The reason is that a particular part of the caffeine gets trapped in the filter along with all the grounds.
Yep - switched from French Press to filtered coffee after I saw my LDL numbers going up for a couple years in a row.
The trend reversed.
Caffeine is better for your health than statins. Statins are better for the Pharmaceutical Industrial Complex.
And cholesterol denialism/inadequately treated ASCVD is a gift for stent manufacturers and intervention cardiologists.
I think the article refers specifically to the sorts of coffee where you pour water directly on the grounds and let that settle to drink without filtering like with drip coffee…and pertains to just a couple of by products of this method.
Here’s a review article that’s a bit more recent (suggesting that the paper in the OP had a reproducible finding) As usual, it’s a bit more complicated than you’d expect.
I hadn’t realised it was a thing until a few years ago…before I knew about my issues…but a girlfriend who’s actually a food scientist by training had given up French press in favour of drip coffee as one effort to lower her non HDL-C. I rarely drink French press and never, say, Turkish coffee and suchlike.
Is not needed if you don’t get sick. An ounce of prevention is not eating the food pyramid crap.
Today’s lunch pork and sauerkraut. Healthy meat, healthy veggie, no harmful carbohydrates.
This morning my bathroom scale saw 71.x Kgs for the first time. After more than five pharmaceutical free years I’m still alive and kicking. Dr. William Thomas of The Eden Alternative commented that pharmaceuticals are overprescribed because people are frustrated and want a magic cure which the industry is more than happy to provide.
Before you pile on note it’s overprescribed because medicine does have a most useful place in society but is abused. Note the opioid epidemic.
Oh, I totally agree with more than an ounce of prevention… for preventable diseases. And, for a good many, ASCVD/metabolic syndrome etc is preventable. Avoiding craptaculous lifestyle choices from an early enough age would go a long way.
However, as popular a notion as it might be, I think that retrospectively blaming the “food pyramid” is a total cop out for most…reassuring as it might be to have cartoons on YouTube videos such as you posted a day or two ago confirming the False Memory Syndrome. Mindless eating, a SeeFood diet, with a megadose of sitting and smoking as risk multipliers rather than in spite of multiple efforts at weight management.
Just like masking (to use a current thread as example) …you can’t blame failure on guidelines/advice that weren’t followed.
I have a reusable mesh filter - it does not appear to be ‘gold’ and it is definitely not paper.
I’m probably good.
I’m guessing its good I switched to decaf?
HA! You might just have saved a life @Leap1.
We had a day of snow yesterday and my plan was to get out and clear the driveway before the shoveling crew came so husband could get out easily.
Z2/MAF/ASCVD mitigation/low lactate training in the bag, I settled to digest and assimilate my own link and, lo…the blokes are here now. I guess the Grim Reaper needs to look elsewhere today.
The Food Pyramid guidelines were followed and that led to the T2 diabetes epidemic whether you accept it or not.
In 1964 I discovered that sugar was making me sick. By now it’s pretty much common knowledge that sugar is not a healthy food. The food pyramid encourages eating carbohydrates that are soon converted to glucose. Connect the dots!
The Captain’s not wrong about this. I recently had a heart valve repaired and part of the recovery/rehab was information about nutrition. What was I told to avoid? Sodium and added sugars, including simple carbs. Such as white breads and flours, white pastas, white rice, white potatoes.
What has been illuminating is just how hard it is to eat out, for example, and follow the guidelines the hospital gave me for diet. For that matter, how picky you need to be in the grocery store as well.
Depends, Starbucks decaf is 13% caffeine by their high caf standards. Meaning you can still get the bad LDL effect. I know that myself.
I have used a drip for about a year now. My numbers radically improved. I only drink decaf. You need the Swiss Water Process decaf.
Sorry to be your bubble burster, Leap1 but decaf doesn’t appear to help.
Conclusions: Switch from regular to decaffeinated coffee had no cholesterol-elevating effects, irrespective of the type of coffee.
It was concluded that, in healthy adults, replacement of regular coffee by decaffeinated coffee has no effect on serum cholesterol and lipoproteins.
Looks like I need to limit myself to only 1 full-caf Americano in the morning and then go with filtered decaf the rest of the day.
@bjurasz That is a two-pronged appraoch forcing you off some of your calorie intake and forcing you to eat vegetables in larger quantities. You have given up calories in the best way possible.
I was not pretending decaf helped. The filter helps.
If you get an Americano unfiltered then you are not doing well with this. Unless your numbers are good anyway.
Well, if you hadn’t been avoiding added sugars prior to that, you weren’t following the principles set out on the food pyramid. Even the cartoon version in Dr Paul Mason’s vid has that just about visible at the tippy top in the tiny box that tells you to “use sparingly”.
And all those other “simple” carbs you itemise …all those refined carbohydrates and stuff that’s now earned the ultra processed food moniker…were never intended to be part of a “low fat diet” They were simply marketing tools and nutritional information you’d be likely to find on the back of a Snackwell cookies pack…not a bad of steel cut oats, say, or can of garbanzo beans.
Don’t get me wrong. For my personal choice, although it would’ve been totally possible for me to plan a nutritious diet within the guidelines, it would’ve been a bit carb heavy but, OTOH, a low fat diet didn’t suggest that, had I enjoyed sloshing a cup or more of salad dressing on my greens, swapping regular oil and vinegar for a sugar laden iteration was the way to go.
Absolutely correct! Read the labels, learn the jargon. Sugars and carbs go by lots on names.
Dextrose = the dextrorotatory form of glucose (and the predominant naturally occurring form).
Maltose = a sugar produced by the breakdown of starch, e.g. by enzymes found in malt and saliva. It is a disaccharide consisting of two linked glucose units.