Some of you may know that unfilitered caffeine is bad for your cholesterol numbers. Coffee is a leading reason or better put cause for the use of statins. This was news to me. I can not find the NPR report so I will leave you with the NIH.
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Filtered with what type of filter?
david fb
Paper or gold filter. The reason is that a particular part of the caffeine gets trapped in the filter along with all the grounds.
Yep - switched from French Press to filtered coffee after I saw my LDL numbers going up for a couple years in a row.
The trend reversed.
Andy
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Caffeine is better for your health than statins. Statins are better for the Pharmaceutical Industrial Complex.
The Captain
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And cholesterol denialism/inadequately treated ASCVD is a gift for stent manufacturers and intervention cardiologists.
I think the article refers specifically to the sorts of coffee where you pour water directly on the grounds and let that settle to drink without filtering like with drip coffeeâŚand pertains to just a couple of by products of this method.
Hereâs a review article thatâs a bit more recent (suggesting that the paper in the OP had a reproducible finding) As usual, itâs a bit more complicated than youâd expect.
I hadnât realised it was a thing until a few years agoâŚbefore I knew about my issuesâŚbut a girlfriend whoâs actually a food scientist by training had given up French press in favour of drip coffee as one effort to lower her non HDL-C. I rarely drink French press and never, say, Turkish coffee and suchlike.
Is not needed if you donât get sick. An ounce of prevention is not eating the food pyramid crap.
Todayâs lunch pork and sauerkraut. Healthy meat, healthy veggie, no harmful carbohydrates.
This morning my bathroom scale saw 71.x Kgs for the first time. After more than five pharmaceutical free years Iâm still alive and kicking. Dr. William Thomas of The Eden Alternative commented that pharmaceuticals are overprescribed because people are frustrated and want a magic cure which the industry is more than happy to provide.
Before you pile on note itâs overprescribed because medicine does have a most useful place in society but is abused. Note the opioid epidemic.
The Captain
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Oh, I totally agree with more than an ounce of prevention⌠for preventable diseases. And, for a good many, ASCVD/metabolic syndrome etc is preventable. Avoiding craptaculous lifestyle choices from an early enough age would go a long way.
However, as popular a notion as it might be, I think that retrospectively blaming the âfood pyramidâ is a total cop out for mostâŚreassuring as it might be to have cartoons on YouTube videos such as you posted a day or two ago confirming the False Memory Syndrome. Mindless eating, a SeeFood diet, with a megadose of sitting and smoking as risk multipliers rather than in spite of multiple efforts at weight management.
Just like masking (to use a current thread as example) âŚyou canât blame failure on guidelines/advice that werenât followed.
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I have a reusable mesh filter - it does not appear to be âgoldâ and it is definitely not paper.
Iâm probably good.
JimA
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Iâm guessing its good I switched to decaf?
HA! You might just have saved a life @Leap1.
We had a day of snow yesterday and my plan was to get out and clear the driveway before the shoveling crew came so husband could get out easily.
Z2/MAF/ASCVD mitigation/low lactate training in the bag, I settled to digest and assimilate my own link and, loâŚthe blokes are here now. I guess the Grim Reaper needs to look elsewhere today.
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The Food Pyramid guidelines were followed and that led to the T2 diabetes epidemic whether you accept it or not.
In 1964 I discovered that sugar was making me sick. By now itâs pretty much common knowledge that sugar is not a healthy food. The food pyramid encourages eating carbohydrates that are soon converted to glucose. Connect the dots!
The Captain
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The Captainâs not wrong about this. I recently had a heart valve repaired and part of the recovery/rehab was information about nutrition. What was I told to avoid? Sodium and added sugars, including simple carbs. Such as white breads and flours, white pastas, white rice, white potatoes.
What has been illuminating is just how hard it is to eat out, for example, and follow the guidelines the hospital gave me for diet. For that matter, how picky you need to be in the grocery store as well.
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Depends, Starbucks decaf is 13% caffeine by their high caf standards. Meaning you can still get the bad LDL effect. I know that myself.
I have used a drip for about a year now. My numbers radically improved. I only drink decaf. You need the Swiss Water Process decaf.
Sorry to be your bubble burster, Leap1 but decaf doesnât appear to help.
Conclusions: Switch from regular to decaffeinated coffee had no cholesterol-elevating effects, irrespective of the type of coffee.
It was concluded that, in healthy adults, replacement of regular coffee by decaffeinated coffee has no effect on serum cholesterol and lipoproteins.
Looks like I need to limit myself to only 1 full-caf Americano in the morning and then go with filtered decaf the rest of the day.
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@bjurasz That is a two-pronged appraoch forcing you off some of your calorie intake and forcing you to eat vegetables in larger quantities. You have given up calories in the best way possible.
I was not pretending decaf helped. The filter helps.
If you get an Americano unfiltered then you are not doing well with this. Unless your numbers are good anyway.
Well, if you hadnât been avoiding added sugars prior to that, you werenât following the principles set out on the food pyramid. Even the cartoon version in Dr Paul Masonâs vid has that just about visible at the tippy top in the tiny box that tells you to âuse sparinglyâ.
And all those other âsimpleâ carbs you itemise âŚall those refined carbohydrates and stuff thatâs now earned the ultra processed food monikerâŚwere never intended to be part of a âlow fat dietâ They were simply marketing tools and nutritional information youâd be likely to find on the back of a Snackwell cookies packâŚnot a bad of steel cut oats, say, or can of garbanzo beans.
Donât get me wrong. For my personal choice, although it wouldâve been totally possible for me to plan a nutritious diet within the guidelines, it wouldâve been a bit carb heavy but, OTOH, a low fat diet didnât suggest that, had I enjoyed sloshing a cup or more of salad dressing on my greens, swapping regular oil and vinegar for a sugar laden iteration was the way to go.
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Absolutely correct! Read the labels, learn the jargon. Sugars and carbs go by lots on names.
Dextrose = the dextrorotatory form of glucose (and the predominant naturally occurring form).
Maltose = a sugar produced by the breakdown of starch, e.g. by enzymes found in malt and saliva. It is a disaccharide consisting of two linked glucose units.
The Captain