B*zo Tesla Influencers Screw the Pooch

They ran over debris in the road within 60 miles.

The idea was to livestream or film a full unedited drive coast-to-coast with the vehicle driving itself at all times.

They didn’t make it out of California without crashing into easily avoidable road debris that badly damaged the Tesla Model Y:

In the video, you can see that the driver doesn’t have his hands on the steering wheel. The passenger spots the debris way ahead of time. There was plenty of time to react, but the driver didn’t get his hands on the steering wheel until the last second.

In a follow-up video, the two Tesla influencers confirmed that the Model Y had a broken sway bar bracket and damaged suspension components. The vehicle is also throwing out a lot of warnings.

Xpeng is following Tesla on FSD.

Tesla isn’t the only automaker chasing robotaxi dreams with the help of cameras and AI. Chinese automaker Xpeng, which became the world’s first automaker to install lidar into electric vehicles back in 2020, has since had a change of heart.

At the IAA Mobility 2025 show in Munich, Candice Yuan, senior director and head of product at Xpeng’s Autonomous Driving Center, told CarNewsChina that the company has grown increasingly confident in its vision-based approach since pulling lidar from its vehicles.

Xpeng’s self-driving system is called Navigation Guided Pilot (XNGP). It sounds far less polarizing than Tesla’s Full Self-Driving (FSD), which still requires constant driver supervision and readiness to take over at all times. Like Tesla, Xpeng is betting big on end-to-end machine learning models that it says could operate anywhere in China, at least theoretically.

That claim might not be entirely true. Robotaxi companies Waymo and Zoox already use lidar data to train their AI, arguing that it helps their systems read the road and environment more accurately, especially in poor lighting, bad weather, or the countless edge cases that happen in complex urban environments.

However, studies have said that training AI systems with lidar can be more complex and expensive. It can require heavy data labeling, sensor calibration and complex integration. Unless an AI system is built from the ground up to support lidar, adding it later can mean reengineering the whole system. That’s likely what Yuan meant. Not that lidar is useless, but that Xpeng’s new system wasn’t designed for it.

It seems the winner of camera vs lidar battle has not yet been determined.

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Maybe the software thought it was a Cybertruck with the additional ground clearance?

Elecdrek? Yawn.

The Captain

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::chuckle:: How quaint. An ad hominem response coupled with executive-level mockery.

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More on this fiasco.

  • Apparently, that was a metal ramp that they hit, while driving 75 mph.
  • The Tesla, with FSD (Supervised) activated, did not brake or swerve at all at the sight of the road hazard.
  • Getting the car off the road and onto a car lift showed that a front sway bar bracket was heavily damaged, as well as some plastic in that area.
  • After they moved on from there, though, they got to a Supercharger and the Tesla wouldn’t charge.
  • So, they slowly got the car over to the Tesla Service Center in Tucson, Arizona.
  • The car’s large high-voltage battery was damaged. The cost to repair everything: $22,275.82.
  • Reportedly, the Tesla service techs found that there was a pre-existing problem with the battery cells, so they decided the battery replacement would be covered under warranty. Well, isn’t that nice?

There are many wild things about that story. I won’t ramble or rant about them all. Honestly, I don’t even know what else to say. That said, though, I am skeptical that a normal Tesla owner (rather than a famed YouTuber) would have received a new battery “under warranty.” Maybe I’m just too old and cynical at this point.

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