Tesla's FSD in Trouble

https://electrek.co/2025/03/24/tesla-tsla-rolls-back-full-self-driving-trial-china-approval-rules/
to software updates for advanced driver assist systems.

The new set of rules includes a requirement that automakers “submit detailed technical information” before deploying a software update to their fleet over the air.

In North America, Tesla FSD is also available on HW3 vehicles, albeit with different, less-performing software.

Tesla CEO Elon Musk recently admitted that HW3 vehicles will not be able to achieve the promised unsupervised self-driving and will need to be retrofitted with more powerful computers.

https://electrek.co/2025/03/23/tesla-full-self-driving-stagnating-after-elon-exponential/
The stagnation of FSD could be explained by Tesla making a pivot and focusing on its geo-fenced ride-hailing service instead of its long-standing promises.

Since 2016, Tesla has claimed that all it vehicles produced onward have all the hardware capable of self-driving at a level enabling a robotaxi service and that a software update would eventually enable it.

For the past six years, CEO Elon Musk has claimed that Tesla would achieve that goal by the end of the year, and he has been wrong every time.

Could be no one believes what Elon promises anymore.

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Hundreds of billions of $$$ available to be won from the world’s biggest loser…

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FSD (Full Self Driving)
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I propose we change the term to something more in line with reality. My vote is for F(BNRF)SD, for “Full, but not really full, self driving.

Others may wish to append ANWB.

All Tesla has to do is appoint one of their employees to each vehicle as a 24/7 valet/chauffeur. Then it is FSD. Just not what they thought it would be…

I’d go with YNGGI - “You’re Never Gonna Get It”
or perhaps the inescapable “Failing Self Drive” (substitute Flawed, Fallible, or the like).
2019 M3 owner (yes, purchased before Musk went crazy).

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Here’s what he said precisely during Tesla’s last earnings call in January:
So, we’re going to be launching unsupervised full self-driving as a paid service in Austin in June. So, I talked to the team. We feel confident in being able to do an initial launch of unsupervised, no one in the car , full self-driving in Austin in June. We already have Teslas operating autonomously unsupervised full self-driving at our factory in Fremont, and we’ll soon be doing that at our factory in Texas.

The “unsupervised self-driving” operation in Fremont that Musk is referring to is simply Tesla’s vehicles driving themselves to loading areas at low speeds and on private roads – it’s a world of difference compared to operating unsupervised on public roads.

Speaking of the word “unsupervised,” it’s an important term that comes from Tesla’s telling owners that its “Full Self-Driving” (FSD) features require “supervision” at all times.

Based on all the information released to date, Tesla plans to have an internal vehicle fleet, consisting of its existing vehicle lineup, although some believe Tesla will also use its new Cybercab, offering a paid ride-hailing service (à la Uber) in a geo-fenced area around Austin.

he has criticized Waymo’s strategy of deploying its system in mapped geo-fenced areas for being too difficult to scale.

However, Tesla’s upcoming launch in Austin is extremely similar to what Waymo has been operating for years, with the main difference being that Tesla only uses cameras while Waymo uses a full array of different sensors, including lidar.

Same old. Same old. Over promising.

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Called THAT long ago–remember?

The affected vehicles, some of which collided with chains, gates and other gate-like barriers, did not result in any injuries, Waymo said in a report filed with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

The issue has been fixed with its latest sixth-generation self-driving software, Waymo said, adding that it had deployed its latest ADS software version across its entire fleet by the end of December.

DB2

Don’t mind me. I am here just to see Tesla shorts and haters getting a blood bath.

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… after they made 40%+ driving it down from December until Liberation Day, only back to where it was in October, they’ve all flipped to long again (and they were probably long from October to December).

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