Brand value of X is exploding

The DSM 5 is for diagnosis and treatment billing codes.

You are narrowing down mental illness to perhaps quirks that are not a mental illness. Autism is more than quirky.

Some of the posters here are seeing quirks and think that means Autism.

You could never do it but Musk is doing extremely well with it.

He wants it to be the public square where people feel they will be heard. You have already branded most Americans as not mature enough to be on SM.

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Mulvaney is an excellent example of why advertising executives are very skittish about things that can hurt their brands. That apparently low-stakes decision (“We’ll do a small-scale promo with a moderately popular Youtuber”) ended up doing incalculable damage to the brand and almost certainly destroyed the careers of the execs who made the call. Unlike Kanye, though, AB faced brand-damage on both sides of the equation - severing the relationship or maintaining the relationship, either way would generate hostility towards the company. That’s not the case when you terminate a relationship because the other party did something that is universally derided, like engaging in antisemitic behavior.

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AB made a mistake that Musk is not making. AB basically backed down.

Backing down is the test for respect.

We have one poster who no matter what he says no matter how often he is wrong…he never backs down or admits his mistakes. Instead Americans other than himself are too immature to use SM.

The lesson is not equally applicable. When Musk is talking to literally everyone and his principle is freedom of speech over commercialism he meets our test of integrity…well if we agreed with what he had said…but when we post here and can not admit our mistakes we are truly immature and arrogant.

You quoted a couple cases where businesses failed to pander to the lowest common denominator, and the blowback they suffered. Seems that, to the profit maximizing business, the best course is to pander to the largest cohort, by denigrating everyone else…like Fox Noise does.

Following an election a few years ago, I put certain companies renowned for slanted reporting on my watch list. They did not do particularly well then, but the US seems to have become much shinier since then.

Remember this production, by one of the companies I had on the watch list? The laffer is the reporters talking about what this company forces it’s local news anchors to say on air, is the notion that local news is “trusted”. I have offered, from time to time, that the local news I see in metro Detroit is garbage: a mix of “severe weather” hysteria, football hype, purchased pieces that come with a script for the local personality to read from to narrate the piece, and advertising passed off as news.

The Young Turks seem to run the entire edit of Sinclair stations performing the “must run” editorial about “fake news”. Just close your eyes, plug your ears, and hum, when the TYT reporter names names that can’t be named.

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And it is an excellent point. The more extreme cases where there is an inability to function in society are considered developmental disorders. The less extreme cases are considered examples of neurodivergence. Neither represents a “mental illness” because there is no psychological disorder.

I think this has been empirically demonstrated. Social media platforms inevitably decline to hate speech, personal attacks, and antisocial behavior without there being an equivalent of a parental authority (e.g., the TMF censor) monitoring the conversations. We Americans on social media are like a kindergarten class. If the teacher leaves the room, chaos ensues.

We as a population are not mature enough to handle an unmonitored discussion forum, particularly when most participants are anonymous.

Makes my point. Business decisions are distinct from ethical ones. How we deal with people like Musk and others who have developmental “disorders” (for lack of a better term) that make them predisposed to socially inappropriate behavior differs depending on whether the objective is economic or ethical. In Business, right/wrong or fair/unfair are subordinate to profitable/unprofitable.

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You take me wrong. My problem is with referring to autism as an mental illness, not with trying to trivialize autism. Being the grandparent of a profoundly autistic child, believe me that I don’t trivialize autism. An illness is something one tries to cure. Autism is not something one tries to cure.

Armchair warriors.

The issue is the extreme freedom of speech offered by Musk. It happens anyway even with a moderator.

Our founding fathers were the same way and granted forever as geniuses. All of them wrote anonymously. That is why we have our freedoms today. The founders could experiment with less consequence to their beings.

Hamilton was thoughtless and reckless in person. He was the only major casualty of political infighting.

The lack of casualties was the ultimate gift to us. The freedom of speech invested in self-sovereignty was sustained.

I’d call that pretty mature.

It does not have the polish of English tea time.

Mental illness is often chronic not curable.

We may not know how to cure it, but we try. One does not try to cure an autistic.

Musk has had work with his social aspect. I do not know anything other than he was young when he did work on himself. We must assume it altered his ability for the better. He is highly functional.

In our lifetimes work with lower function cases won’t happen with as much success.

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A video on the subject…

The Captain

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I actually agree but I’m guessing from a very different perspective from you. The importance of the former Twitter is declining rapidly with respect to its economic significance (companies are refusing to do business) and its political impact (declining credibility for reliable information).

I suspect these are unintentional consequences of Musk’s actions, but beneficial ones to American democracy nonetheless.

The former Twitter is becoming the Temu of free speech. A place where you can find all kinds of stuff but of dubious quality. It has actually always been that, but is now being more broadly recognized as such.

It’s odd, but my experience of Twitter is different than much of what I read about it. AdBlock Plus and uBlock Origin keep it ad free. Having found the people I am interested in and followed them, I use the Following option and NEVER go to For You. As a consequence, all of the tweets are either from someone I want to pay attention to or at worse something they retweeted. Occasionally, when I go to a tweet to read the full text or a thread or to send a link to someone I will see nonsense below, but I quickly ignore that. Nothing that has happened post-Musk has changed this meaningfully. Why bother to read a bunch of unfiltered junk?

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My experience is similar although I don’t actually follow anyone. I have a bookmark for people/orgs on Twitter and when I want to see what’s new I click on the bookmark and visit their page. I get no alerts or messages or other clutter.

JimA

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My experience is similar, but I from the get go I have so detested everything from MySpace and Facebook through Tweet and whatever that almost all I know about them is from reading about them on this extremely archaic board, METAR.

Runs in the family. All three of my nephews turned out like me.

david fb

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Unless I am learning something or feeling supported I do not care what other people say. Meaning if I see something that is not ethical I do not validate it in my mind. With that filter what other people say can have no import if they are being creeps.

I have seen plenty of people disagree with me anywhere. Those folks are often very wrong. Getting huffy and puffy just makes them out as beggars for support. That is not ethical or important to anyone.

We are all making the same point.

There are times when I let it go. Depends on how thick they are. There are times when I challenge them because it stops arrogance.

The main reason to go after it on SM is to make public stands that bring people to our causes. For all that, “I avoid that”, everyone is rubbernecking.

As they say, BTAS is the opposite of TDS.