Control Panel: Value vs. Growth, the stone in the well

Every investor has different motivations and risk tolerance. Investments of all kinds appeal to the different balance of greed and fear.

History shows that stock market bubbles often attract risk-tolerant investors (who may not realize the danger). They may project strong growth in future earnings. Speculators chase the growing stock price from Fear Of Missing Out. So-called “growth stocks” often have high Price-to-Earnings multiples. Many growth stocks do not pay dividends so the investors rely on other FOMO investors buying the stocks when they need to sell to raise cash.

More conservative investors, who may have studied history and even seen stock bubbles inflate and deflate during their own lifetimes, may prefer so-called “value stocks” with low P/E multiples. These often pay reliable, sometimes growing, dividends. Over years the dividends can repay the initial investment and the investor can sell when needed just like the “growth stock” investor.

The AI stock boom strongly resembles the 1999 internet build-out boom. Huge borrowing without near-term cash flow from customers. Very high P/E ratios. Companies booking profits from sales to other companies in the same build-out process.

The so-called “Mag 7” stocks rose so quickly that 30% of the SPX index was concentrated in those few stocks. This was a glaring danger. Anyone who can read a chart should be concerned.

Like a large flock of birds which takes off slowly, then faster, then all at once, investors have been gradually shifting from growth toward value stocks.

An important story this week was the run on “shadow banking” private-credit companies like Blue Owl. They do not mark their assets to market but instead to a “model NAV.” Investors are starting to mistrust this and want to withdraw their money. OOPS, sorry! The money’s loaned out and Blue Owl limited redemptions to 5% when redemption requests were 22%. This ain’t some money market fund, folks.

Because private credit has largely replaced traditional bank lending for mid-sized companies, a liquidity crunch here functions like a “clogged pipe” for the industrial and financial sectors. Industrial firms with debt maturing in 2026 may find the “private window” closed, forcing them into the public high-yield markets where spreads are widening toward the 10% danger zone. Zombie companies that have to roll over low-interest loans may default.

The transition of the Federal Reserve Chair from Jerome Powell to Kevin Warsh in May 2026 marks the end of the ‘Fed Put’ and the return of ‘Market Discipline.’ Warsh is strongly against QE and actually quit his job at the Fed in 2011 when Fed chair Ben Bernanke began QE2 in 2011. Warsh’s “Market Discipline” approach could be the pin that finally pops the Private Credit bubble because the bond market has been operating with a “Fed put” since Greenspan suppressed the fed funds rate long after the 2001 recession was over. That’s a whole generation of bond traders that has NEVER seen market discipline.

The 22% redemption request at Blue Owl last week is the market’s first attempt to exit a burning building where the door only opens 5%. For a generation of traders who have never seen a market without a safety net, market pricing without a “Fed put” will be a traumatic lesson in the inexorable nature of debt.

That will go double if the Fed refuses to back up accounts at regulated banks that exceed the $250,000 FDIC insured limit as they did at Silicon Valley Bank in 2023.

The Macroeconomic impact of impending stagflation and potential loan liquidity issues is dragging down growth stocks, value stocks and bonds together.

As energy prices rise due to the Strait of Hormuz closure, industrial companies face a double whammy: higher input costs and higher cost of capital. This is the textbook definition of a supply-side squeeze that the Federal Reserve cannot easily fix with interest rate policy. It’s a classic cause of recession. This may be why value stocks are declining.

https://www.wsj.com/finance/stocks/one-of-the-stock-markets-last-havens-is-now-at-risk-7aa84e5d?mod=finance_lead_story

One of the Stock Market’s Last Havens Is Now at Risk

Value stocks have outperformed growth stocks by the biggest margin in years

By Krystal Hur, The Wall Street Journal, April 5, 2026

  • A rally in value stocks, which have outperformed growth stocks this year, is now threatened by the escalating Middle East conflict.

  • The Russell 1000 Value Index has fallen 4.3% since late February’s U.S. and Israel strike on Iran.

  • Value stocks began their ascendance months ago, with investors growing skeptical about the billions of dollars being funneled into AI technology.

One of the last places to hide from this year’s stock-market turbulence is in danger.

Value stocks, or shares trading at low multiples of their book value, have quietly marched toward a banner year. Now the war in the Middle East is threatening to upend the trade, leaving investors few places to find refuge from fears over everything from rapid advances in artificial intelligence to geopolitical conflict…

Some investors say they still expect big tech shares to outperform value stocks in the long run. Inflation has remained relatively steady, despite fears last year that Trump’s tariffs would send prices higher.

Earnings growth is also expected to be robust. Companies in the information-technology and communication-services sectors are expected to see profits jump by around 37% and 13%, respectively, this year, while industrials’ and financials’ earnings are projected to grow in the single digits… [end quote]

Again, it’s important to take a broader perspective on these earnings - how much of the IT and communication sectors’ earnings are circular and how much is reliable income from end-user customers?

The stagflation story is firming up as the attack on Iran and Iran’s closure of the Strait of Hormuz has caused the price of oil, fertilizer and helium to rise, along with the price of shipping all kinds of goods. Uncertainty is extremely high since it’s impossible to know from day to day what direction President Trump will push the attack on Iran.

The Cleveland Fed’s Inflation Nowcasting shows significantly higher inflation in 2Q26 with the Quarterly annualized percent change of CPI close to 5%.

The Atlanta Fed GDPNow real GDP estimate for 2026:Q1 has dropped to 1.6%, a very rapid drop from early March.

Total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 178,000 in March, and the unemployment rate changed little at 4.3 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported on Friday, 4/3/26.

Economic activity in the manufacturing sector expanded in March for the third consecutive month, say the nation’s supply executives in the latest ISM® Manufacturing PMI® Report. This correlates with an increase in manufacturing employment in the BLS report.

Economic activity in the services sector continued to expand in February, say the nation’s purchasing and supply executives in the latest ISM® Services PMI® Report. The Services PMI® registered 56.1 percent, its 20th month in a row in expansion territory. Services represent 80% of GDP so this is far from recessionary.

The overall economy continued in expansion for the 17th month in a row.

With higher-than-expected inflation and employment, the Federal Reserve will not cut the fed funds rate. The options market is betting on stable fed funds rate for the rest of 2026 with just as much probability that the FOMC will raise as that it will cut.

The negative trends from the past few weeks reversed slightly last week but this is probably noise from a short week of trading.

The Fear & Greed Index is still in Extreme Fear. The trade is still risk-off though stocks, bonds and even bitcoin had a tiny bounce. (Probably noise.) USD and gold had a slight bounce up. Oil fell slightly. These moves are probably noise.

The Chicago Fed’s National Financial Conditions Index (NFCI), which provides a comprehensive weekly update on U.S. financial conditions in money markets, debt and equity markets, and the traditional and “shadow” banking systems, shows that monetary conditions have been tightening since late February although they are still much looser than average. Financial stress is rising though it is still lower than average.

“Consumer sentiment fell back 6% this month to its lowest level since December 2025. Declines were seen across age and political party. Consumers with middle and higher incomes and stock wealth, buffeted by both escalating gas prices and volatile financial markets in the wake of the Iran conflict, exhibited particularly large drops in sentiment. Overall, the short-run economic outlook plunged 14%, and year-ahead expected personal finances sank 10%, while declines in long-run expectations were more subdued. These patterns suggest that, at this time, consumers may not expect recent negative developments to persist far into the future. These views are subject to change, however, if the Iran conflict becomes protracted or if higher energy prices pass through to overall inflation.” [end quote]

A Jewish aphorism says, “A fool can throw a stone in a pond that 100 wise men cannot get out.”

The ripples from this stone will propagate across the pond for many years. It’s impossible to say what consequences - intended and unintended - will result.

The METAR for next week is unsettled. The markets will probably be volatile and may not change much in the end. But the bias is toward negativity.

Wendy

https://www.cmegroup.com/markets/interest-rates/cme-fedwatch-tool.html

https://www.ismworld.org/supply-management-news-and-reports/reports/ism-pmi-reports/pmi/march/

https://www.ismworld.org/supply-management-news-and-reports/reports/ism-pmi-reports/services/february/

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Here are BMW CAGR mean reversion graphs (updated 5 April 2026 ) for SPY500

and QQQ/NAZDAQ

The CAGRs indicate, as has been noted elsewhere, both are overvalued.
But, not yet “bubble”?

In TA terms, they are trading sideways, reverting to the mean.
Consolidating, waiting for the mean to rise to meet them.

ChatGPT says
S&P 500 ≈ −4% to −5% from ATH

Nasdaq ≈ −7% to −10% from ATH (depends on exact day, but clearly worse than S&P)

The “consolidation of the SP500 n NAZ” could be interpreted as “the excess exuberance is being bled off”? Ie, the “bubble is deflating safely”?

The talking heads of mainstream media are bloviating as much FUD as possible.

:bubbles::person_taking_bath::bubbles::clinking_glasses:
ralph

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Yep, value stocks, small caps, foreign stocks all have their day, but under perform the S&P 500 over time. My small (2% to 3% allocation) to i-bonds and international stocks are the poorest performers in my portfolio over the last 30 years.

For the past 30 plus years it’s been all “large cap growth” – exactly the asset class the so called experts tell you to underweight. You could have made a fortune ignoring John Hussman.

intercst

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GDPNow was wildly off to the high side in Q4.

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Wendy’s report is so well written I thought we had smoother sailing.

I stumbled around looking things over.

Then I looked at a couple of charts.

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Looks bullish enough to me. Short term bounce. Relief rallies are usually aggressive when going up. The opposite of stop loss raids during a bull market. Now you have short covering during a bear market.

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The biggest risk in the market is that we don’t realize how ignorant we are. I use “we” purposefully because I now realize how all the due diligence I did over the years was mostly futile. The stock market is mired in the past century because the Investing Bible teaches that one needs to learn about business to invest successfully. Warren Buffett seconds the motion by spending most of his time reading financial reports. It kind of works but it’s wrong. The stock market is a casino and should be treated accordingly. Why do I say that? Wendy just pointed out all the gambles money takes in the market.

I’m being unfair to Warren Buffett. He keeps a stash of cash out of the market which, by traditional thinking, should be earning profits in the market. Buffett is waiting for financial gamblers to screw up, when they invariably do, he bails them out at outrageous profits. For the gamblers it’s better than going broke.

We get dumb investing advice like, “Invest like a (business) owner.” When you own the business you run it. When you invest in a business you hope that management does not screw up or steal you blind.

What is missing is the realization that the stock market is “an emergent property” of the complex system spawned by the Joint Stock Laws that enabled all and sundry to invest in business so that giant corporations could be funded. Investing is not the same as running the business, it’s an entirely new complex system. I cannot tell you how invest but the twin goals are to get the most reward for the least risk.

The Captain

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Yep. Buying and holding a low-cost index fund beats 95% of professional managers and probably 98% of the amateurs over the long run.

Who would have thought that there’s a “free lunch” in the stock market?

intercst

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Do you know how much it costs to buy a seat at the NYSE? It must be one hell of a racket. The “free lunch” of a low-cost index fund is precisely the low cost, all the money not spent on experts.

The Captain

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The 99-day clock is ticking, but it’s got until mid-June.

DB2

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So the Mungofitch sell indicator is getting close to a “sell” signal?

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Closer every day since late January.

DB2

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I think the last sell trigger was late May 2025, followed rather quickly by a buy trigger that next month. Unless I have my spreadsheet wrong.

Column 1, closing price of $VOO, by trading day.

Column 2, the max value of the prior 99 closing days (so first 98 rows are 0 here). This is the 99-day-high.

Column 3, the 99-day-high value from 99 days ago.

Column 4: sell if today’s closing price (column 2) is less than the column 4 value, buy otherwise. (EDIT: I think this is technically wrong but possibly close enough).

And I see, late January the value of column 4 was a hair under $600 a share, and $VOO is currently about $605, so I think I have my spreadsheet right.

We’re close indeed.

(EDIT: I think, maybe, column 2 should be the all-time-high. Then the sell indicator is if the all-time-high is the same value for 100 days. The buy indictor would be a new all-time high).

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@rainphakir

The underlying Now versus 2000: government spending in the late 1990s. Now we have a huge mess. The AI spending can run dry. Open AI can fall apart. So far the company has raised $178 billion and has nothing to do show for it.

$178 b according to the link. What I am saying is the money does not exist to match the plans. The money does not exist for the military budget. Real income is dropping. Earnings will follow. The entire banking sector deserves more scrutiny.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/OPAI.PVT/

Key Spending & Financial Data (Approximate, 2025–2026)

  • 2025 Spending: OpenAI reportedly burned through $8 billion in 2025, while generating $13.1 billion in revenue.
  • 2026 Projected Burn: Annual cash burn is expected to increase to over $17 billion in 2026.
  • Total Projected Spend: OpenAI has revised its long-term spending plans, aiming for roughly $600 billion in compute spend by 2030, a reduction from previous, more aggressive projections of $1.4 trillion.
  • Major Contracts: The company has signed massive agreements for computing power, including a $300 billion deal with Oracle over five years (starting 2027), a $250 billion commitment for Microsoft Azure services, and a $38 billion, 7-year deal with Amazon AWS.
  • Funding Raised: To support this spending, OpenAI closed a funding round in early 2026 with $122 billion in committed capital, valuing the company at over $850 billion.

[image]Forbes +7

“Who would trust a lunatic with nukes”?

For the 99-day signal, the previous sell signal was in early June, 2022.

DB2

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Just saw this new proprietary index that incorporates labor participation into unemployment. According to its creator - Mark Zandi - we’re already in a recession.

Vicious Cycle Index!

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This chart is not going to top out. The tariff policies won’t allow that. We do not have the growth to peak and top out. Instead our GDP growth is so bad we are going to go down hard regardless. The war is next to being a minor issue. Interest rates are the problem now running into unemployment followed by deflation. This is going to unfold quickly over the rest of this year…and before November.

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