DEI risk to corporations

[eldemonio]

@gcr2016

I have never witnessed that.

If you’ve never witnessed it, that doesn’t mean it’s doesn’t happen.

How about a popular political activist posting that he won’t fly on a plane if the pilot is black? Because, you know…DEI.

Whether we’re talking about coworkers, or just the anti-woke lunatics given a social media megaphone, racist rhetoric and opinion regarding DEI is prolific.

[eldemonio]

@btresist

That’s an odd argument. My position all along is that most minorities don’t need DEI to be successful, so why bother with DEI? What’s the point if it doesn’t provide some significant advantage? And if it does provide an advantage, don’t these folks you are painting as racist kind of have a point that the playing field is tilted?

I find it odd that you’d think that the only reason a company or school would implement a DEI program is to provide an advantage to minorities.

Here’s a brain-buster. Some companies actually realize that they have to compete for talent. Given that the majority of their traditional hires have been wonderbread dudes, they recognize that the best of the best may very well be a POC, someone who’s LGTBQ, someone who’s neurodivergent, etc. They ask themselves, “How do I find, recruit, and retain these people?” They develop a DEI program towards this end. I suspect many universities have the same motive.

Companies who develop effective DEI programs and ececute them well do it because it gives them a competitive edge.

Now, I’m not saying all companies that implement a DEI program do so in the manner I’ve explained, but a lot of them do. That’s the problem - all y’all talking about the evils of DEI are making a wildly inaccurate assumption that all DEI looks the same.

Another problem, most anti-DEI opinions are largely based on misconceptions and misunderstandings. One of the more vocal anti-DEI people on this board not too long ago posted that the E stands for Environmental…no offense Bob.

[btresist]

@eldemonio

I find it odd that you’d think that the only reason a company or school would implement a DEI program is to provide an advantage to minorities…They ask themselves, “How do I find, recruit, and retain these people?” They develop a DEI program towards this end. I suspect that many universities have the same motive.

It might help if you read my posts before concluding things are odd. I’ll direct you to post 89 in this thread where I wrote:

@btresist

I think most think it acceptable for a DEI program to achieve diversification by making a greater effort to recruit a more diverse pool of applicants and guaranteeing that all applicants be treated equally.

But I think many DEI programs went a bridge too far by giving the strong implication that race/gender is a significant factor in hiring/accepting a candidate. That is the definition of a racist or sexist hiring policy. That fosters resentment.

Clearly I do not think there is only one kind of DEI and that I have no problems with what I would call the weaker version. But I do believe that the stronger version that borders on affirmative action is counterproductive.

But here is the million dollar question that I hope you won’t avoid as you have the NBA example. Do you believe ethnicity, gender, or sexual orientation should be a factor in hiring or college admissions decisions?

If your answer is no, then we are in agreement, the goal is equal opportunity not proportional representation. If your answer is yes then my followup question is “Then why shouldn’t ethnicity also be a factor in who gets to be on the football and basketball teams?”

[eldemonio]

@btresist

Do you believe ethnicity, gender, or sexual orientation should be a factor in hiring or college admissions decisions?

The reason I’m not addressing it is because I refuse to accept that Affirmative Action necessarily defines DEI. It doesn’t.

I thought we were debating DEI, not AA.

[gcr2016]

@eldemonio

How about a popular political activist posting that he won’t fly on a plane if the pilot is black? Because, you know…DEI.

I’m not sure if you are referencing a real past event, but if it happened the activist was/is an idiot.

For me personally, I don’t care if the pilot is white, black, brown, green or purple. They can be female/male/ or whatever they identify. They can be tall/short (not too short, I want them to be able to reach all of the controls), fat/skinny, handsome/ugly, I don’t care. I just want them to be very good at piloting a plane. I don’t want a pilot that was given his license because society feels a need to have a certain percentage of every category in a particular field.

[steve203]

@eldemonio

How about a popular political activist posting that he won’t fly on a plane if the pilot is black? Because, you know…DEI.

Another media talking head jumps in line with the anti DEI/Affirmative Action/ESG narrative.

CNN’s Scott Jennings Makes L.A. Fire Hell All About DEI

[steve203]

I won’t post a link, because it names names, but Pakman uploaded a piece showing a different CNN reporter “sane washing” the press conference of a day or two ago. Pakman concluded that CNN, just as Meta is, is jumping in line, to avoid “retribution”.

Jump in line, or keep your mouth shut.

Steve

[DrBob2]

Exclusive: Meta kills DEI programs
https://www.axios.com/2025/01/10/meta-dei-programs-employees-trump
Mark Zuckerberg’s Meta is terminating major DEI programs, effective immediately — including for hiring, training and picking suppliers, according to a new employee memo obtained by Axios…

Friday’s memo by Gale — announcing changes to “our hiring, development and procurement practices” — was posted for Meta employees in Workplace, the company’s internal communications tool.

DB2

[steve203]

@DrBob2

Mark Zuckerberg’s Meta is terminating major DEI programs, effective immediately

Toe the line, or be crushed.

I’ve seen this movie before.

[rainphakir]

Here’s a great “biography” of Idi Amin.
Supposedly Kyemba was an Amin insider.

A State of Blood by Henry Kyemba (1977-09-03) A State of Blood by Henry Kyemba (1977-09-03): Henry Kyemba: Amazon.com: Books

ralph