If you’ve never witnessed it, that doesn’t mean it’s doesn’t happen.
How about a popular political activist posting that he won’t fly on a plane if the pilot is black? Because, you know…DEI.
Whether we’re talking about coworkers, or just the anti-woke lunatics given a social media megaphone, racist rhetoric and opinion regarding DEI is prolific.
I find it odd that you’d think that the only reason a company or school would implement a DEI program is to provide an advantage to minorities.
Here’s a brain-buster. Some companies actually realize that they have to compete for talent. Given that the majority of their traditional hires have been wonderbread dudes, they recognize that the best of the best may very well be a POC, someone who’s LGTBQ, someone who’s neurodivergent, etc. They ask themselves, “How do I find, recruit, and retain these people?” They develop a DEI program towards this end. I suspect many universities have the same motive.
Companies who develop effective DEI programs and execute them well do it because it gives them a competitive edge.
Now, I’m not saying all companies that implement a DEI program do so in the manner I’ve explained, but a lot of them do. That’s the problem - all y’all talking about the evils of DEI are making a wildly inaccurate assumption that all DEI looks the same.
Another problem, most anti-DEI opinions are largely based on misconceptions and misunderstandings. One of the more vocal anti-DEI people on this board not too long ago posted that the E stands for Environmental…no offense Bob.
It might help if you read my posts before concluding things are odd. I’ll direct you to post 89 in this thread where I wrote:
Clearly I do not think there is only one kind of DEI and that I have no problems with what I would call the weaker version. But I do believe that the stronger version that borders on affirmative action is counterproductive.
But here is the million dollar question that I hope you won’t avoid as you have the NBA example. Do you believe ethnicity, gender, or sexual orientation should be a factor in hiring or college admissions decisions?
If your answer is no, then we are in agreement, the goal is equal opportunity not proportional representation. If your answer is yes then my followup question is “Then why shouldn’t ethnicity also be a factor in who gets to be on the football and basketball teams?”
The reason I’m not addressing it is because I refuse to accept that Affirmative Action necessarily defines DEI. It doesn’t.
I thought we were debating DEI, not AA.
I’m not sure if you are referencing a real past event, but if it happened the activist was/is an idiot.
For me personally, I don’t care if the pilot is white, black, brown, green or purple. They can be female/male/ or whatever they identify. They can be tall/short (not too short, I want them to be able to reach all of the controls), fat/skinny, handsome/ugly, I don’t care. I just want them to be very good at piloting a plane. I don’t want a pilot that was given his license because society feels a need to have a certain percentage of every category in a particular field.
Another media talking head jumps in line with the anti DEI/Affirmative Action/ESG narrative.
I won’t post a link, because it names names, but Pakman uploaded a piece showing a different CNN reporter “sane washing” the press conference of a day or two ago. Pakman concluded that CNN, just as Meta is, is jumping in line, to avoid “retribution”.
Jump in line, or keep your mouth shut.
Steve
Exclusive: Meta kills DEI programs
https://www.axios.com/2025/01/10/meta-dei-programs-employees-trump
Mark Zuckerberg’s Meta is terminating major DEI programs, effective immediately — including for hiring, training and picking suppliers, according to a new employee memo obtained by Axios…
Friday’s memo by Gale — announcing changes to “our hiring, development and procurement practices” — was posted for Meta employees in Workplace, the company’s internal communications tool.
DB2
Here’s a great “biography” of Idi Amin.
Supposedly Kyemba was an Amin insider.
A State of Blood by Henry Kyemba (1977-09-03) A State of Blood by Henry Kyemba (1977-09-03): Henry Kyemba: Amazon.com: Books
ralph
Target latest company to roll back DEI programs
https://thehill.com/homenews/race-politics/5105514-target-dei-programs-trump/
DB2
Now that the DoJ has been ordered to target private industry and enforce anti-woke buffoonery, it’s no longer about companies realizing that DEI doesn’t work. Kinda changes things, no?
Sure, although it’s not an either/or thing but rather in addition to. For example, this post was from two years ago:
DB2
It’s possible and potentially expected that if a company has a strong DEI program that is executed well, then DEI focused roles would eventually not be needed. I’m not saying that is what definitively happened between 2020 and 2022, but it could be a factor.
OK, so the program to eradicate DEI proceeds. Written corporate DEI policies are eliminated. Then what?
What does a company need to do, to prove that it is not a “closet DEI” company? Are the enforcers going to tour a company, see significant numbers of brown, black, female, and handicapped people, and charge the company with committing the crime of “DEI”? How does a company prevent being charged with “DEI”? By making sure their workforce is overwhelmingly fit, straight, white, and male?
Steve
How about the federal govt being in violation of its own edict(s)? TIG is orange. Definition of DEI. He has to be put on unpaid leave and then let go with all the other DEI hires.
I think that’s very possible. It seems to be the MO of the anti-woke club to assume that if there are POC employed, it can’t possibly be because they’re qualified.
This guy is conducting loyalty interviews for the administration…
Orange is NOT white (last time I looked, anyway). So, documented DEI at the highest level(s). FIRED (because he is a POC and therefore NOT QUALIFIED) !!
Remember a line from"Marigold Hotel", about whether color washes off or not?
Steve
Nope, the yellow down his back cannot be washed away.
