This looks like something that could be a big deal.
https://www.elastic.co/blog/elastic-enterprise-search-beta1-…
Today we are pleased to announce Elastic Enterprise Search, a new product that allows teams and organizations to search all the data scattered across the many tools that power the productivity of their workforce.
We’ve discussed how Enterprise software tools are proliferating the workspace. The Okta report was confirmation of these discussions, with the average Okta customer having 83 apps in use as of 2018. And growing.
Think about all the data in use and stored in all those apps across departments. Elastic is bringing the ability to perform search across those disparate systems.
Across all industries, team members now enjoy access to an increasing number of purpose-built, cloud-based tools that are more focused and easier to use than ever before. This enables new forms of collaboration, faster execution and an explosion of productivity for teams both large and small. This proliferation of content has created tremendous value, and it has also created a new opportunity: the chance to unify all information in one place and make it easily searchable from a single search box. Elastic Enterprise Search makes that possible, and it is now easier than ever before.
Search all of your documents, pull requests, issues, tickets, contracts, spreadsheets — whatever it is, wherever they are, you have a single, organized gateway to getting things done.
And all you need to run it is…
-Java 8 or Java 11.
-An Elasticsearch 6.7.1 cluster.
-A Platinum Elasticsearch license.
This is the type of game changing capability that could drive businesses into the paid Elastic camp. I see this as very big thinking from Elastic.
Darth
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For the beta, looks like they have focused on a few commonly used apps. Google Drive, Drop Box, GitHub, Salesforce, and custom.
I suspect this is where the Premium open source comes into play. With hundreds (maybe thousands?) of apps out there, Elastic simply can’t provide the code for everything. But if there’s interest a developer will create the code for a particular app and be required to contribute back to the project.
So just released beta, but very interested to watch where this product goes.
Darth
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This is really interesting - thanks Darth.
I think people on this board know I’m not very enthusiastic about ESTC, the main reasons being that to me, they are more of a feature than a product, and that I am not at all convinced in their business model and being able to monetize their application.
This looks like a product, and one that no one else is doing (to my knowledge). This is also hard to do - they both need to get access to the data, on an opt-in basis, and technically need to be able to index it all.
If they can do it, and get customers, I don’t see the customers leaving. Of course this is all speculation - it depends on their real technology and business model.
This puts ESTC on my watch list. If they can execute, I’ll be in.
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This has been known for awhile that it is in development. They are trying to get out of the “log file” search, which is high volume, low value. There’s a Gartner report on Insight Engines that lists some of the players. It looks like the leading player, Lucidworks, is the leader. It’s private.
Here’s a link to the report if you want to download: https://lucidworks.com/2018/07/13/gartner-magic-quadrant-ins…
It’s 2018 so a new one should be out soon.
“We have implemented Lucidworks’ Fusion platform across multiple business functions,” said Scott Ross, SVP of Omni-Channel Technology at Lowe’s. “Competing in today’s omni-channel world requires a mastery of the volumes of data generated by machines, humans, and systems in real-time and at massive scale. With Fusion, we can focus on exceeding our customers’ expectations, while increasing productivity of our associates, knowing that we have the tools to give us the scale, speed, and data-centric results we need to innovate in an ever-changing retail environment.”
Sox
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Sox,
Interesting. In all the discussions and research I’m not sure I’ve even seen Lucidworks mentioned anywhere. They say they are a search engine and a NoSQL database. The main product is Lucidworks Fusion server. It’s open source and built on Apache SOLR (which is built on Apache Lucene like Elastic). SOLr is often sited as major competitor for Elastic.
Neither Lucidworks nor Fusion Server show up in the Stackoverflow developer survey or in DB Engines rankings. The google trends has almost no action for Lucidworks compared to Elastic. In Stackoverflow there is 57 tags for Lucidworks compared to 38,000+ for Elastic. Gartner similarly shows rather disinterest in Lucid.
I’m not sure exactly how Lucidworks product compares to what Elastic is launching but there seems to be a lack of interest in the usual places that have been pretty reliable in the past but are by no means authoritative on market share.
As I am admitting I’m not very familiar with Lucid, can you add anything else? The magic quadrant is interesting but not very informative by itself.
Thanks,
Darth
From NH, go Sox!
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Hey Darth - it’s not a DB engine, it’s a search engine. The majority of large e-commerce retailers and major organizations use it for ecommerce search and digital workplace search. The company is private but has received over $100M in VC funds. Something that I am watching.
The company, from my understanding from a friend that is in sales, is that Elastic isn’t a player in true Enterprise Search, they aren’t even invited to the table on these large deals. Hence, I have not invested in Elastic as I don’t see the business value (outside of IT which still is large)to the people that have Revenue numbers or Customer Experience metrics.
Wish I knew more.
Sox
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https://www.g2.com/categories/enterprise-search
I do not know if Elastic is the leader in enterprise search but according to the G2 review site Lucidworks most definitely is not.
Tinker
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Yeah and Tinker.
If you look over to the right of Elastic and #1 on the list is Swiftype.
Elastic has owned Swiftype for some time. I made note of G2 and all my other haunts as well for trying to figure where Lucid has been.
https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252457760/LucidWorks-CEO…
At the time{of the May 2018 funding round}, the company was growing at 120%.
{today} Fusion is a $40m product which has been incredibly successful for us.
Fusion is Lucidwork’s main product. Although they also do some services relating to Apache SOLR.
As far as impact to Elastic, unless I find information otherwise, Lucidworks does not appear to rise to an issue.
Darth
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Yep, it is clear that Elastic is #1 in enterprise search between Swiftype, which is #1 and Elasticsearch, which his #3 in this survey. They are really one in the same depending on how you use them. Reviewing Swiftype, Swiftype was built using Elasticsearch for storage and indexing on its back end:
https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/09/elastic-acquires-swiftype/…
Elastic appeasements to be continuing to iterate at a nearly unmatched pace. At the same time they are expanding their use cases from end to end enterprise search to machine learning. I am sure there is more to come.
Tinker
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Yep, it is clear that Elastic is #1 in enterprise search between Swiftype, which is #1 and Elasticsearch, which his #3 in this survey.
Thanks, Darth. I wasn’t aware Elastic owned Swiftype!
AJ
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