Evergrande: tear down 39 bldgs?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/evergrande-is-told-to-tear-down…

**Evergrande Is Told to Tear Down 39 Buildings on Man-Made Island**
**Figures also show a steep drop in apartment sales by the developer, which can appeal the tear-down order**

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**The crisis engulfing China Evergrande Group deepened, as the embattled property developer said it had been ordered to tear down dozens of buildings on an extravagant man-made island in southern China. The notice was issued by local authorities in the island province of Hainan along China’s southern coast.**

**At the same time, Evergrande released data showing its much-publicized financial stress had largely halted sales of new homes, depriving it of an important source of cash. Contracted sales dwindled to about 720 million yuan, the equivalent of just $113 million, between mid-October and year-end, the company’s figures showed....**

**Evergrande, which had amassed roughly $300 billion in liabilities as of June 30...missed several interest payments on U.S. dollar bonds, including some that were due in December, and has been declared in default by major credit-rating companies. ...** [end quote]

Evergrande stock is still trading. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=egr…

If Evergrande defaults on its enormous debt, the tsunami could impact China’s banks and individual investors on a Macro scale, perhaps causing a financial crisis the likes of which China’s “communist economy with Chinese characteristics” has never yet experienced. Perhaps enough to propagate as far as impacting their purchases of U.S. Treasuries.

Wendy

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There are a couple of expats on youtube who ride their motorcycles around China touring the nation’s “ghost cites” (i.e., miles and miles of empty, high-rise luxury apartments.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XopSDJq6w8E

intercst

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I wouldn’t mind knowing why Evergrande was told to tear down 39 buildings.

Particularly if I was, or was seriously considering, investing in Chinese real-estate companies.

If Evergrande defaults on its enormous debt, the tsunami could impact China’s banks and individual investors on a Macro scale, perhaps causing a financial crisis the likes of which China’s “communist economy with Chinese characteristics” has never yet experienced. Perhaps enough to propagate as far as impacting their purchases of U.S. Treasuries.

Wendy,

Not to worry.

China will take action to protect Evergrande’s Chinese bondholders (while making foreign bondholders take a haircut) because Evergrande is “too big to fail.” Chinese leaders can thank the United States for teaching them how to implement a bailout by treating two different types of creditors differently than what the law allows, based solely upon their political influence. Expect a version of “two-tiered” justice or the division of Evergrand’s lenders into Chinese nationals (privileged) and foreign nationals (non-privileged) creditor classes ex post facto.

The US government did essentially the same thing by treating retired pensioners (unsecured creditors) better than they treated Chrysler bondholders (secured creditors) in the 2008 bailouts. Foreign creditors were certainly among Chrysler’s bondholders who were forced to accept impairment despite superior priority.

In the absence of a bailout, GM and Chrysler would each have been forced to file for bankruptcy like any other company in their circumstances. It is possible that Chrysler would have then faced liquidation… General Motors, however, would almost certainly have been re-organized…

Secured debt takes first priority in payment; it is also typically preserved during bankruptcy under what is referred to as the “absolute priority” rule… In the Chrysler case, however, creditors who held the company’s secured bonds were steamrolled into accepting 29 cents on the dollar for their loans. Meanwhile, the underfunded pension plans of the United Auto Workers — unsecured creditors, but possessed of better political connections — received more than 40 cents on the dollar.

https://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/the-auto…

There is no way that the Chinese government (or Western central bankers) would allow another 2008 crisis to develop simply by letting a few hundred billion in ostensibly bad debt impede the smooth functioning of markets.

If it appears there is no other way for China to throw a lifeline to Evergrande, the Peoples Republic of China and the Bank of China could always create the equivalent of America’s TARP, which protected US bankers from suffering the consequences of their bad decisions.

The Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) was an initiative created and run by the U.S. Treasury to stabilize the country’s financial system, restore economic growth, and mitigate foreclosures in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis. TARP sought to achieve these targets by purchasing troubled companies’ assets and stock.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/troubled-asset-relief-p…

There’s no need to reinvent the wheel. When your greatest competitor and/or potentially disadvantaged creditors have already established a custom of tackling excessive debt by officially approving of and implementing a massive system for rewarding Moral Hazard, you simply repeat the same methods and practices whenever needed.

Wash, Rinse, & Repeat.

:wink:

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There are a couple of expats on youtube who ride their motorcycles around China touring the nation’s “ghost cites” (i.e., miles and miles of empty, high-rise luxury apartments.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XopSDJq6w8E

intercst

I watched that video. Perhaps Evergreen won’t have to tear down the 39 buildings if they were build with same quality of those shown on the video. They would eventually collapse on their own.

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I wouldn’t mind knowing why Evergrande was told to tear down 39 buildings.

To make sure no one dies when they collapse?

To reduce the glut of empty buildings?

To destroy the evidence?

I’m sure Steve can come up with better suggestions! LOL

The Captain

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