Higher min wage ===> fewer jobs

I will say one of the problems with living in a very hcol location, is you cant find any service workers, bc they cant afford to live there or within a reasonable commute.

Just hard to make it work with massive wage gaps and everyone wealthy putting so much of their money into real estate.

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Nv

Concisely

Low wage workers have been pushed out of California as housing costs rise

Are we talking about Bill Clinton as well as Donald Trump ? Sleepy Joe does not remember.

Let’s put them both on trial and let the chips fall where they may. Instead of trying to make excuses for them. What are you afraid of? After all, you already knew Trump was a felon, and you still voted for him.

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Bill Clinton “I did not have sexual relationship…” is also a sexual predator.

Democrats are complicit in the crime. You guys don’t want stuff to come out. Leadership is silent. Let’s put all of them on trial !

You are complicit in every crime Trump has and is doing today by your support. You have allowed this to happen. You still haven’t asked for all the files to come out because it will show you supported it.

I just said let’s put them all on trial. So now you are just outright lying.

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So much anger. You must be illegal in hiding.

Projecting again? I didn’t even think you were illegal, but I did realize you are an angry little elf.

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Technically, that one was consensual. The other two women, whose legal bills were paid by mysterious entities. said they did not consent. Remember Gennifer Flowers? Paula Jones reportedly, also got her nose fixed, from the money that flowed in to finance her suit. Actually, Mr Google says Kathleen Willey was another.

So the question is are the Flowers/Jones/Willey/Daniels/Carroll cases substantially different from the Epstein case?

…and how the heck did a thread about minimum wage drift to degenerates in the White House?

Steve

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That’s far too general.

Socialism works for a LOT of things. Consider fire and police protections. Having government “own the production” for those things is vastly superior to private. Same with roads and utilities. I know first-hand about when a road is not maintained by the city. How about air traffic control? Government-owned. The list is very long for things that government does better.

It doesn’t do everything better. But to say it “doesn’t work” is very situational.

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You are confusing governments doing few things with governments doing everything.

Captalism system have governments.

Socialism does not work.

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The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.

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What really buttered the bun was the dot.

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“Socialism” is the government owning the means of production. That’s the definition. China was probably the most socialist government for a long time until Mao did his “communist compromise with capitalism”. The USSR had a lot of problems in some areas because workers weren’t motivated, and didn’t really care.

In terms of governments like that, no…socialism doesn’t work. I think China works better because they have let a lot more capitalism in. But I still maintain your claim is too broad. There was a time when you had to pay for fire protection. In some rural areas, you still do (Rural Metro being one of the largest that I’m aware of). In those days, if you didn’t pay for fire protection, the fire trucks would show up only to assure the fire didn’t spread to one of their paying customers’ structures. They’d let your structure burn. We mostly have socialized that business, and it’s far more equitable and effective than private.

Making cars (for example)? That’s different. Soviet-built cars were mostly a joke. That’s a case where state ownership of the means of production didn’t yield good results.

I think our problem in the USA in particular is that we tend to privatize the gains, but socialize the losses. That’s not exactly socialism, it’s dumping the failures onto the people. The bank-bailouts are a great example of that.

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This is factually untrue. This is a line used by politicians and demogugues on both sides and lazy analysis repeated without verification because it sounds good.

In nominal terms, the US government did not lose money on TARP, achieving a $15.3 billion profit. However, when factoring in fair value estimates, non-repayable subsidies, and broader economic interventions, the true cost is debated, with some analyses suggesting losses or significant indirect costs.

Many financial institutes got wiped out like Lehman Bros, Merril Lynch (acquired), WaMu and shareholders lost most of the money.

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In 1992 we did not know.

You knew better in 2015 and 2020 and 2024.

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I am interested in three different financial tools.

  • retirement funding
  • healthcare
  • education

The rest of it becomes much less important.

Universally caring about the American public is constructive for the American industrial base. These costs paid for universally bring down labor costs while raising the standard of living for all Americans.

The next costs which are not universal by nature

  • the military
  • the road system

adding by hook or by crook we pay all of these costs. Let’s make it efficient.

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All are about “consent.” The last one is also about “consent” but also “age of”. That puts it in a completely different, if related category, in my view. (Also in the eyes of the legal system.)

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There might be some slavery thrown in there also, that brings it up to another level altogether. The more they fight releasing the files, the more complicit I think they are. I think everything needs to be seen now, but it seems that they are on a mission to hide everything. On twitter a woman said she would have voted for Epstein rather than Harris. Unfortunately, I think that is where his base is at. They do not care that he did this. This is why he received so many votes.

That said Peter Kelly did know. In late 1991 he sat in my parents’ living room and said he had to sign off on Bill Clinton’s infidelities. The top of the party accepted Clinton’s candidacy. I do not know specifically what Peter knew at that time. The inference was to affairs with mature women.

He served as the Democratic National Committee treasurer (1979–1981) and finance chair (1981–1985). He served as senior political advisor to Al Gore in 1988 and 2000, Bill Clinton in 1992 and 1996, and John Kerry in 2004.

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