Hamas missiles are manufactured in Gaza. But they are not fertilizer bombs or acetone bombs. They are made with military grade explosives and probably parts smuggled in.
How can munitions be kept out of Gaza?
Surround Gaza with a five mile buffer zone to be patrolled by Israel to stop smugglers. Israel has incentives to inspect items crossing the border with the Sinai Strip carefully. And they could patrol the Mediterranean shore. Heaven forbid if the munitions are being smuggled through Israel
There has been a blockade of the Gaza Strip since 2007. The Gaza Strip has a population of 2 million on 141 square miles (about 25 miles long by 6 miles wide). Some trade is needed to support the population. A blockade contributes to economic hardship as it stops most trade, and will reduce smuggling, but can’t stop all smuggling. There are no easy answers here.
The U.S. Southern border is not an open border. U.S. Customs and Border Protection has more than 60,000 employees, and spent over $20 billion in 2023. I think that is substantive.
“An open border is a border that enables free movement of people (and often of goods) between jurisdictions with no restrictions on movement and is lacking substantive border control.”
The proposed U.S. immigration reforms that I’ve seen do not include open borders, instead these proposals increase border security. In politics, I interpret complaints about “open borders” as a call to spend more money to increase border security. Funding has increased in recent decades, and will probably continue to increase as there is bipartisan support for more U.S. border security.
Axios Explains: The myth of a U.S.-Mexico “open border”
“Reality check: Since 1992, the U.S. has quadrupled the number of Border Patrol agents — from less than 5,000 to nearly 20,000 today.”
“An Axios review of news stories found that the ‘open border’ language took off during the Obama administration as conservatives worked to thwart planned immigration reform.” https://www.axios.com/2023/10/17/us-mexico-border-open-borders-myth
It would be more productive if people just said what they want (more border security) instead of vaguely describing the state of the world (perceived open borders). It also sends the wrong message. Do people really want to falsely advertise open borders? Focusing language on border security would do more to discourage possible immigrants.
Immigration affects the economy, and reforms have been long talked about, but little has been done. This forum is not the place to talk about specific reforms, but it is also not the place for political buzzwords like “open borders”. Previous thread discussing the U.S. border:
I keep wondering what El-Sisi’s game is in holding up the truckloads of aid at Rafa? An Egyptian official a couple days ago, said Israel had bombed the crossing four times. No-one else has made that claim, and one journo asked a guest specifically about that. Supposedly, 20 trucks of supplies were supposed to cross today. They didn’t, Now the media is reporting flow will start in 24-48 hrs. This has been going on for nearly two weeks. The SecGen of the UN was at that gate today decrying the obstruction of humanitarian aid.
What happens if the mob stacked up on the Gaza side of the crossing gets a big truck and rams through the gate, to get at the supplies in the trucks? Will Egyptian troops shoot them down?
Gaza has a 25 mile shoreline on the Mediterranean. That’s vastly harder to defend and interdict than a land border. Canada supplied mega-gallons of booze via sea smuggling during Prohibition, as one example.
While it would require some trans-shipping to get from Iran (assuming the munitions are coming from there), I would note that Egypt, Libya, Lebanon and Syria also have direct sea access, so there are lots of possibilities.
Yep, it only took 20 years in Afghanistan to learn that it is difficult to beat an insurgency that looks exactly like the local population. We could certainly spend 20 years on the border relearning that lesson - with similar results.
Israeli politics are taking a radical turn away from Netanyahu as this passes. Hamas and its ilk may be out of the picture. Both were pushing each other. The US is different than other western democracies. The US has a different sort of decisiveness in some areas and much less so in other areas.