Bondi boasted to Trump that 3,400 kilos of fentanyl had been seized “since you’ve been here last 100 days,” and then added: “which saved — are you ready for this, media? — 258 million lives.”!!
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And the worst part is that all of the red hat’s will read that and not even question whether it can possibly be true. Really sick of them.
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I have wondered about that myself. DEA frequently claims they have seized enough to kill millions. Can’t help but wonder if they are claiming it’s enough to kill a million, if the doses are large enough, but the lot would be cut into several millions of doses, before sale. It’s like the weather forecasters that scream “severe weather” every day. When is their credibility entirely shattered?
Steve
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I do not know how she did that. It doesn’t add up.
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The original post has been deleted but taking a guess from similar stories I’ve seen before. In one, someone was poo-pooing the confiscation/arrest of 2 pounds of fentanyl. Doesn’t sound like much till you do the math. Typical dose of fentanyl in an OR setting is 25-50 micrograms. Two pounds comes in at around 1 million doses. Say it takes 10 times the normal dose for an overdose and you can have 100k deaths.
So doesn’t take much to get to potential millions of deaths.
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iirc the OP quoted a government official saying they seized enough to kill 368M people. I hear claims of enough being seized to kill millions frequently. Let’s apply a little logic. It is probably reasonable to assume the DEA only snags a small portion of the dope being moved into and around the country. If their claims about how many would be killed by the amount seized were accurate, do the math. There wouldn’t be anyone left alive in the country.
Steve
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The problem with Fentanyl is a problem that certainly can be discussed since the APIs for making it are traded in the world. But the US should recognize its own fault and do something for their own people rather than blaming the other for its problems.
The same thing goes with jobs. China did NOT steal their jobs. China provided what the American consumers and the American corporations wanted: plenty of goods at very low prices, and making a lot of money.
If the people do not have jobs, what did the US gov’t do about it? Nothing until Trump. But Trump is going about it the wrong way. The other is not at fault. Look at yourself and solve your own problem. Don’t bring the other in. They have nothing to do with it.
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Doing the math and rounding up to 400 million people to keep it simple. You wind up with 200 kg or little less than 100 pounds of fentanyl. Again, not much and easily doable.
Even if my assumption of a fatal overdose of fentanyl is off by a factor of 10, 1000 pounds is still easy.
The scary part, there are stronger drugs out there the is used in the OR that I haven’t heard about hitting the streets. Yet.
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It wasn’t potential. It was actual lives saved.
“Since you have been in office, President Trump, your DOJ agencies have seized more than 22 million fentanyl pills, 3,400 kilos of fentanyl, which saved—are you ready for this, media?—258 million lives.”
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And just for reference, those numbers are roughly similar to the amount of fentanyl intercepted over the same period last year. Unsurprising, since the manpower to do that work is roughly the same between the two years.
–Peter
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Good gracious, cabinet meetings have turned into a ridiculous spectacle. Here are a few more brain melting details / quotes from the bootlickers:
Near the end of President Donald Trump’s marathon Cabinet meeting Wednesday, Secretary of State Marco Rubio noted that the U.S. has brought home 47 wrongfully detained Americans so far in Trump’s second term.
“Forty-seven for the 47th president in the first 100 days,” Rubio said. “And that’s all credit to you, Mr. President.”
Earlier in the session, Vice President JD Vance mused that “most” of the presidents whose portraits adorn the Oval Office — which include Ronald Reagan, James Madison, George Washington and Abraham Lincoln — were mere “placeholders” who weren’t “men of action.”
And Interior Secretary Doug Burgum observed that Trump was “not just courageous, you’re actually fearless” in taking on issues that other presidents dare not touch.
“All of us can sprint, because you’re running ahead,” Burgum said.
“I just want to say thank you, as a veteran of our military, for assembling what is the greatest national security team that I have ever seen in my 27 years associated with the United States Army,” said Lee Zeldin, the administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency, who has served in the military for more than two decades.
Meanwhile, Walz was busy using Signal…
These people have no dignity, no shame.
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I think they need to get to a skin Doctor because they seem to have some melanoma or something on the End of their nose. It’s going to take surgery.
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Where is Dread Pirate Roberts when we need him?
“We are men of action. Lies do not become us.”
Westley
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Thanks for the quote. My point is, the DEA is, most likely, only intercepting a small portion of the dope being shipped around, So, if they are intercepting, lets be generous, half of the dope, why aren’t there 200M dead bodies laying around? According to the CDC, only about 27,000 are revived with Narcan per year.
Steve
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If it wasn’t the attorney general of the United States I would say her statement was absurd fiction designed to appeal to people with sub 75 IQ. Who was the target audience in the room.
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Because we have been planting and burning them as fast as a 1 legged man in a Buttooski kicking contest. Invest in coffin, mortuary and Natural gas stocks. It’s a phenomenal return.
Edit: I am not giving financial advice or trying to have anyone invest in any stock or company mumble, mumble, mumble.
If everyone were overdosing, that is.
And the fentanyl is cut with other obnoxious junk.
DB2
Which is what I said, way, far, above. The “official” claims of “millions” or “hundreds of millions of lives saved” is total bunk. That’s like confiscating 100,000 rounds of ammunition, and claiming you “saved 100,000 lives”.
Steve
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I think we’re talking about different kinds of “cutting”. Yes, it is diluted to street strength. At the same time other drugs are added such as coke, heroin, meth, etc.
From a couple of years ago:
Fentanyl mixed with cocaine or meth is driving the ‘4th wave’ of the overdose crisis
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/09/14/1199396794/fentanyl-mixed-with-cocaine-or-meth-is-driving-the-4th-wave-of-the-overdose-cris
Since 2010, overdoses involving both stimulants and fentanyl have increased 50-fold, and now account for 32% of U.S. overdoses in 2021 and nearly 35,000 deaths…
DB2
If Americans were not buying and using illegal drugs, the drug cartels would find a new market to push their toxic product.
Why isn’t Trump going after the users of Fentanyl like he is going after illegal immigrants ??
From the Bondi soundbite, it sounds like the fentanyl users are much more dangerous to Society than the illegals.
I haven’t heard Trump or Bondi or any of the others say that the illegals are responsible for millions of American deaths. So if they attacked the fentanyl users, the market would dry up. Think of all of the lives saved !!
Trump admin sounds like a Monty Python skit, without the comedy, just the inane stupidity.
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