In-N-Out leaving Oakland

Isn’t there a major airport there with several hotels and a couple of golf courses?

And, of course, you will get every visiting New Englander in the area at least once a day at the Dunkin Donuts! How much traffic do you need?

JimA

Two out of the three were lousy teams who weren’t drawing enough fans to support the franchise. Both of those had alternative teams across the bay who were consistent winners and drew plenty of fans. So ownership decided to relocate to places that would draw fans even with mediocre teams.

To borrow a Steve JC type analysis, they moved to places where there was no competition, and where the city would build nice, new stadiums for them, so they could make more money without actually investing their own money in better teams.

I, for one, will not miss those endless annoying drums at the A’s games.

—Peter

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A’s were in the playoffs five times between 2000 and 2006.
A’s won division championship in 2013.
The A’s lost a 12-inning wild-card contest to the Royals who went on to the World Series in 2014.
The reason why the A’s are leaving Oakland? Because with the all the land available for a perfect ballpark, Oakland refused to build a baseball stadium for the A’s who are the only team in the MLB that plays baseball in a football stadium.
The Warriors left… why? Because SF and the Warriors put together a safe place to enjoy the games before and after the game. Nobody wants to invest in Oakland, not even Oakland.
(not an A’s fan nor a Raiders’ fan)

Because no one want to watch a baseball game in a football stadium.

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That’s ancient history. My Angels won the World Series in 2002 and have been in the playoffs a few times since then. But today they’re a lousy team. The As we pretty good 10 years ago. They’re lousy today.

Cities don’t build new stadiums for lousy local teams. They build stadiums for lousy teams to attract them to the city because a lousy team is usually better for the local economy than no team at all.

On the other hand, you’re not entirely wrong. The As probably had the worst stadium in MLB, so that factored in to the decision to move. But I think the main reason is economics. The owners believe they will make more money by moving rather than staying.

Never forget that professional sports isn’t about winning. It’s about making money. Winning is only useful if it makes you more money. In spite of what fans think, it’s a business first and foremost.

—Peter

This opens the question: should cities be building stadiums for professional sports teams? I’m suspecting, over time, the new answer will be ‘no’. I can understand infrastructure improvements and modifications; exit ramps, road improvements, utilities and such.

JimA

The “NFL draft”, formerly a few men sitting at a couple tables, has now turned into a multi-day hype event. The “draft” will be in Detroit this year, April 25. The local media is hyping it now, second half of February, almost daily, chattering about the bazillions of dollars that Detroit, and it’s businesses, will take from the people engulfed by the hype.

Steve

Are you going? I think I’ll go next year when Green Bay hosts; I think it important for an owner to be onsite! :sunglasses:

JimA

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If Oakland had built a new stadium like the Giant’s stadium in dogpatch, there is No Doubt that the A’s decision would have been based on that decision alone not to move.

It’s not that bad, the Marlins won the World Series twice while playing in a football stadium!

Like all businesses in the USA, the decision to move is almost always about $$$.

In 1997? yeah, the A’s won one in a football stadium 1989. That’s History.
Today baseball is not played in football stadiums

Yep. And the Marlins moved once they were able to extort hundreds of millions from the city of Miami. And unfortunately, now I only attend a handful of games each season because it is a huge pain to get there and park there. I used to go to 20+ games a season, even at the new ballpark for a few years. But the traffic at game time, and the local street traffic, and the parking situation is dismal. Last season we spent a total of 8 1/4 hours home-to-game-to-home total for one game (ended in bottom of 10th as I recall), and that’s simply too much time.

No, plus some blather to fill the Fool’s requirements.

Meanwhile, on the east coast…

Additional law enforcement officers would add to an already large presence in the subways, where Mayor Eric Adams ordered an additional 1,000 officers in February following a 45% spike in crime in January compared with the same time last year.

DB2

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I wonder if the bathrooms will still be open to customers. Definitely gonna lose business if patrons don’t have that security blanket of a nearby toilet.

Tried Raising Cane’s here in MN. They took over the empty lot where an
Arby’s used to be (burned down during George Floyd riots). Not going back. Arby’s was pretty good. Cane’s is a one-product company, no real choices.

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