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The case rate didnât change much until the '60s with vaccination. The death rate dropped between 1920 and 1940 and stayed low thereafter, which points to better and increased (particularly in rural areas) care practices.
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Yeah, thatâs a common anti vaxxers explanation.
Iâm going to opt for technological advances allowing for improved and advanced pediatric acute and emergency care. Thereby preventing DEATHS from complications of this now preventable disease. That death rate that fell so dramatically was from a not massively high figure even in the early 1900s (or before, come to that).
What statistics on DEATHS doesnât tell you is what the lasting consequences of this now preventable disease (but for the anti-vaxxers tomfoolery) are. The morbidity vs. mortality rate. Thatâs whatâs likely to rise in the futureâŚalong with the costs of the ever more sophisticated and intensive care of those who get sick enough to need it in order to prevent those deaths.
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Re: 1940s drop.
The arrival of penicillin and then more powerful antibiotics made a big difference. Secondary infections could be treated.
Penicillin was a WWII miracle. A priority program to have supplies available for the wounded. After the war became available for everyone. The govt built over a dozen plants to treat the wounded.
Before penicillin they had sulfa drugs. They were better than what they had before but not as effective. Before that diphtheria was treated with serum from the blood of horses. The first synthetic drug Salversan for syphyliss was abt 1900. Theres a movie about it.
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For a bit of perspective, an article on Bills of Mortality (thatâs DEATH) with an example from the 1700s. Note the 200 odd Measles (pretty high considering folk think it an innocuous childhood diseaseâŚwell, some do) ⌠but compare it with âteethâ.
Bills of Mortality â Death in early 18th Century London | A London Inheritance Bills of Mortality â Death in early 18th Century London | A London Inheritance
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I hadnât realized that Canada is so antivaxx. Ontario alone, just one province of Canada, has more measles cases than the entire USA! And Canada, the entire Canada, is just 1/10 the population of the USA. And they have universal healthcare there. Whatâs going on with Canada and measles???
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Lower vaccination rate and higher cluster of the unvaccinated. Pretty good indicator for the effectiveness of vaccinesâŚ
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I wonder how often that occurs.
I had measles, chicken pox & mumps in the 1950âs. No adverse complications. And now at 74 still take no prescription meds. Of course, I am just a sample size of one.
I would think the consequences of lifestyle choices are more devastating than consequences of contracting measles.
Yet we do nothing to contain that public health epidemic.
One might argue that obesity is not contagious. But I imagine children learn their eating habits from their parents.
And:
The Armyâs top general warned Wednesday that lowering entry requirements for recruits is dangerous as the U.S. military looks for ways to attract troops who want to serve and can pass the physical and academic tests
Could we make this a national security issue? Ban fast food restaurants & processed food in grocery stores? How else can our nation provide physically fit recruits for the military?
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I saw that movie, Blazing Saddles right? But I thought it was a red hot poker.
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Ahh the good old days where Evil only claimed 36 people. I bet it is a lot higher today.
Didnât they create this problem because the troops were to skinny?
Words to remember!!
A sample size of one (personal experience =limited experience) with a hefty dose of Survivorâs Bias alongside. Both of these are quite prevalent arguments among the anti vaxxersâŚalong with the added smokescreen of the totally different subject matter which may be totally accurate, but not pertinent to the subject matter.
Youâre providing excellent teachable moments for folk who might wonder how the anti vaxxers have such influenceâŚand missed out on opportunities the old H&N board provided to find out.
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The industrial food complex is poisoning us. What do you propose, more regulation? Fat chance that happensâŚ
Freedom! You can have my Twinkies when you pry them from my cold, dead hands. The only way to address many of our countryâs problems is through more regulation. We donât have the appetite for that.
The movie is Dr Ehrlichs Magic Bullet from 1940. His drug was Ehrlich 606. They made 606 candidates before they found one that worked.
The research was done after germ theory became accepted. This was the first successful drug used to attack an invading microbe in a living patient.
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I think it later became known as The Kingâs EvilâŚi.e. scrofula or tuberculous lymph nodes in the neck. Cured, apparently, by the laying on of Royal hands. Obviously, it wasnât a gua-RON-teed remedy.
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I dunno. We require children to be vaccinated. Made a good try on Covid vaccination.
Believe me there are as many people that would like to require regulations for the good of the people as there are anti-vaxxers.
And a choice of a healthy lifestyle.
And a reminder that avoiding the more severe complications of measles, mumps, rubella etc was the result of good fortune and statistical probability, not what you recall as your healthy lifestyle back when you suffered unscathed. Heck, depending upon your age at the time, you didnât actually have a tremendous choice in your lifestyle (we didnât even have lifestyles back when I was young)
Itâs a crock of an anti-vaxxers argument
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For what itâs worth, I suspect that any vaccination mandates in effect for school attendance will be removed in the not to distant future. Non vaccination is bad enough now with the various exemptions parents can finagle. Weâll have a chance to judge how effective vaccination programs are soon.
You read it here
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My healthy lifestyle continues to this date to benefit me from fending off serious medical issues. But then perhaps itâs good fortune and luck of the draw. No one gets out of this life alive.
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