So the US is defunding mRNA vax research.
Glad I made my stack on BioNTech, and got out, several years ago.
Steve…got the BioNTech vax, produced by Pfizer.
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Why spend taxpayers’ big bucks on vaccine development - a few years back the world‘s universal expert taught us you can simply inject disinfectant as treatment.
(the US is descending into darkness - SB‘s rant sequel 351)
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I still remember watching that State of the Union when he uttered those flabbergastingly stupid remarks “ingest bleach ?” and “shine a powerful light into the body”. And the reaction of the medical experts on the stage, looks of horror flashing briefly across their face. My younger, more naive self thought that such moronic remarks surely spelled the end of DJT’s political life. But nope, was like water off a duck. And that “ability” to utter the most inane, nonsensical gibberish and not suffer any consequences has brought us to this point. " tariffs are paid by the foreign Countries" anyone ??? Fire any body who posts actual facts that disagree with his gibberish.
And there are plenty of smart people who know how damaging he is to the Country, but hey, there is money to be made, so hop in, the water is fine, and they twist themselves into pretzels defending his utterances.
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As offered on this board before: the “JCs” figure they can buy everything they want abroad (the Pfizer mRNA COVID vax was developed by BioNTech, a German company) Everything they want can be invented and developed abroad, at someone else’s expense, by people educated at someone else’s expense, so the US government does not need to fund education or research, so that frees up money the government can use to cover another “JC” tax cut.
Steve
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iirc, that was during one of the frequent COVID press conferences. I started calling the stuff he claimed in those pressers “the panacea of the week”, due to “himself” constantly touting a cheap and readily available supposed cure-all. For a while, it was hydroxychloroquine. Another week, it was ivermectin. Another week it was mainlineing bleach, while shoving a UV light up your kazoo. All mixed in with various riffs on “it will go away on it’s own”, and “it’s no worse than a cold”.
Steve
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Yup, at the height of the covid scare, the Leader Of The Free World was touting all of those things mentioned. But the “disenfectant” and " powerful bright light" really stuck with me, can still visualize him saying those pearls of wisdom.
And some of the true believers really did try the ingested bleach “cure”.
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This is what happens to a country when, for decades, the educated are vilified. Experts are vilified. Knowing stuff is vilified. When ignorance is glorified.
We’re going to be really screwed at the next pandemic.
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The “JCs” will fly to Europe or Asia, where an effective treatment has been developed. The USian Proles will get a lecture on “personal responsibility”.
Steve
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I’m waiting for the announcement that the $500 million dollars will be redirected to studying the effectiveness of slathering cowpox puss all over newborns.
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What’s True
During an April 2020 media briefing, Trump did ask members of the government’s coronavirus task force to look into whether disinfectants could be injected inside people to treat COVID-19. But when a reporter asked in a follow-up question whether cleaning products like bleach and isopropyl alcohol would be injected into a person, the then-president said those products would be used for sterilizing an area, not for injections.
What’s False
However, at no point did Trump explicitly tell people they could or should inject bleach into their bodies.
Trump Didn’t Tell People to ‘Inject Bleach’ for COVID-19. But Here’s What He Did Say | Snopes.com
Thanks for sharing. If you scroll all the way down, there’s a transcript of what he said, and his follow up.
Paraphrasing - Science dude talks about using UV and disinfectants to clean nonporous surfaces. TFG has an idea - if it’s good for nonporous surfaces, we should check out injecting disinfectants and shining UV on the inside of people’s bodies.
Phew, I’m glad this guy is president. 
So What Did Trump Actually Say?
On April 23, 2020, Trump conducted an hourlong media briefing with members of the government’s coronavirus task force (transcript).
The then-president spoke several times throughout the conference, but just over 26 minutes in, he took over from the head of the science and technology directorate at the Department of Homeland Security, Bill Bryan, who had just been discussing the use of ultraviolet light and disinfectants — such as bleach and isopropyl alcohol — to kill the virus rapidly on nonporous surfaces.
In an apparent reference to Bryan’s earlier comments, Trump then said (around the 26:51 mark):
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. So I asked Bill a question that probably some of you are thinking of, if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that too. It sounds interesting.
ACTING UNDER SECRETARY BRYAN: We’ll get to the right folks who could.
THE PRESIDENT: Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you’re going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds — it sounds interesting to me.
Four minutes later, a journalist responded to Trump’s disinfectant comments by asking whether there was any scenario in which cleaning products like bleach and isopropyl alcohol would be injected into people.
Bryan replied first, saying: “No, I’m here to talk about the findings that we had in the study. We won’t do that within that lab, our lab.”
Trump then clarified his own remarks, adding: “It wouldn’t be through injection. We’re talking about through almost a cleaning, sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work. But it certainly has a big effect if it’s on a stationary object.”
At no point in the media briefing did the then-president recommend that people inject bleach or other disinfectants into their bodies. He merely asked experts whether disinfectants could be injected to tackle COVID-19; a stance he later rowed back on when pressed by a journalist.
A day later, on April 24, 2020, Trump told reporters in the Oval Office his question about injecting disinfectants was a “sarcastic question” to “see what would happen”:
I was asking a question sarcastically to reporters like you just to see what would happen… I was asking a sarcastic, and a very sarcastic, question to the reporters in the room about disinfectant on the inside. But it does kill it, and it would kill it on the hands and that would make things much better. That was done in the form of a sarcastic question to the reporters.
He then denied he was asking medical experts to look into injecting people with disinfectants.
Criticism of Trump’s Comments
Nonetheless, Trump’s comments about injecting disinfectants drew widespread criticism from experts.
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The uniquely gifted luminary hears something about killing the virus on surfaces, and has an idea.
A sarcastic person would observe that his “base” is still living, and cite that as proof Darwin was wrong.
Steve
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As a former lighter fluid drinker, I can attest to the fact that ingesting stuff is rarely fatal…however, calls to poison control spiked after his comments -
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Feet like to get infected, athlete’s foot and toenail fungus are very common. Go to the pharmacy and get the prescribed medications. Is that the end of the story? No! Your shoes and your socks can foil the cure. Why do I bring this up? Because simplistic thinking does not solve health problems.
BTW, I have not heard any Covid outbreaks lately. Has it been eradicated? Has the virus been exterminated? What is keeping the world covid free? Any ideas? Any facts?
Google’s AI says
AI Overview
No, COVID-19 has not been eradicated. While outbreaks may not be as widely reported as in the past, the virus still exists, and cases are still occurring globally. The World Health Organization (WHO) has reported an increase in global SARS-CoV-2 activity, with test positivity rates reaching levels not seen since July 2024.
Several factors contribute to the perception of decreased COVID-19 activity:
- Reduced Testing and Reporting:
Many countries have reduced their focus on widespread testing and reporting of cases, leading to fewer reported outbreaks.
- Increased Immunity:
Widespread vaccination and prior infections have likely led to increased population immunity, reducing the severity and spread of the virus.
- Variant Evolution:
The virus may have mutated into less severe forms, or it may be circulating at lower levels without causing significant outbreaks.
- Public Health Measures:
Ongoing public health measures, such as mask-wearing in certain settings and increased awareness of hygiene practices, may be helping to control transmission.
However, it is important to remember that the pandemic is not over, and COVID-19 remains a public health concern. The WHO continues to monitor the situation and encourages continued vigilance and preventative measures.
COVID-19 - Global Situation - World Health Organization (WHO)
28 May 2025 — Global SARS-CoV-2 activity has been increasing, with the test positivity rate reaching 11%, levels that have not been o…
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The Captain
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Congress allows this disaster in the making. What a gift to Russia and China.
Warp speed vaccine development was one of the (few) objectively good things from Trump’s first term, you’d think he’d want to defend that. But the anti-science twitter wackos hold all the power now.
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Agreed, but we now have the bear carcass dumping dude in charge of these things.
I learned something today - mRNA technology is being researched to address all sorts of other diseases…including CANCER!
https://www.pennmedicine.org/about/pioneering-the-future-of-medicine/mrna
Let’s hope another country steps up to do sciency stuff for us.
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I’m good with this part of the article.
Though Trump’s comments made little sense and were ridiculed and described as dangerous by experts under any reasonable interpretation of his words, he didn’t explicitly suggest people should inject themselves with bleach or other household disinfectants.
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Agreed. He suggested we should look into it to see if it works.
He probably didn’t account for all the take-charge people out there who went ahead and conducted their own research…on themselves.
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