Stock risk premium over bonds has vanished

https://www.wsj.com/finance/stocks/the-extra-reward-for-owning-stocks-over-bonds-has-disappeared-c3f9c223?mod=hp_lead_pos2

The Extra Reward for Owning Stocks Over Bonds Has Disappeared

There is little sign of crimped demand for equities among individual investors, who remain bullish after two years of blockbuster gains

By Hannah Erin Lang, The Wall Street Journal, Updated Jan. 27, 2025

The equity risk premium, often defined as the gap between the S&P 500’s earnings yield and that of 10-year Treasurys (10YT), turned negative in late December for the first time since 2002 and sat last week at negative 0.15 percentage point.

The metric is based on a calculation of how much stocks yield, which is derived by dividing the stock market’s expected earnings by its price. The earnings yield is then compared with the yield on government debt.

The difference between stock and bond earnings yields shows how much investors are compensated for the additional risk of owning stocks over relatively risk-free government bonds. Over the long term, stocks need to promise a higher reward than bonds. If not, the safety of Treasurys would outweigh the risks of stocks losing some, if not all, of investors’ money… [end quote]

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush…but a bird in the hand is worth even more if the hypothetical yield of the bird in the bush is less than one.

The yield of the 10YT is determined by the market (when the Federal Reserve isn’t suppressing it with Quantitative Easing). The yield is influenced by many factors, including the bond market’s long-term inflation expectations and the potential for supply to exceed demand due to growing federal government deficits. This chart shows that the 10 YT yield has stabilized in a channel between 4% and 5% but is still in a slowly rising trend.

https://stockcharts.com/sc3/ui/?s=%24TNX

As we all know, the SPX has risen much faster and is now in a historic bubble. The people interviewed in the article who have placed all their confidence and investments in big companies are following in the footsteps of previous bubble speculators who pay no attention to valuations.

If the 10YT yield continues to rise the value of existing bonds will fall. This risk is mitigated by avoiding bond funds and constructing a ladder of individual bonds which return par when held to maturity.

Currently, AA to AAA rated municipal debt with a maturity of 10+ years yields about 5.5%. This is a low-risk approach.
Wendy

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I’m not sure where this information came from. I just checked on Fidelity, and out of 139,000+ muni bonds, if I look at those maturing in 2035 (10 years or so), there are just 66 of them that have a yield (YTW) over 4.5%. And they are all under 5%. And just eyeballing it, about half are rated AA or above.

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@MarkR as you know, interest rates fluctuate daily. Down today. My numbers were from last week and I bought “confetti” – small lots that the large traders would ignore. Like the sale rack at a fancy store the goods change minute by minute.

Wendy

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Yep. I also look through the bond listings a few times a week, but I very rarely see any munis that are worth buying. I’ve been mostly sticking to treasuries and CDs when they have good rates (not recently). Sadly, the last of my 5%+ CDs have just matured. The best you can get now is about 4.3% for a CD.

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Treasuries ( and Municipals ) have the added benefit of being exempt from State income tax ( at least in Michigan ). I’ve never owned muni’s, but think that they might be exept from Fed and State tax if the muni purchased was issued by a municipality in your home State. ( not certain of that ).

I’m just using Treasuries till I see how the economy acts in the near term future. Don’t care if stock market gains are missed ( still own etf’s and stocks )

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