Trading IBD Stocks

Expectations…

In retrospect, this is easy, but at the time it would have been proper to think…"it is finding support around $200 after a decline. Oh, look it just shot up above the 50dma on volume, so I should expect a further show of strength. I will buy and sell if it falls below the 50dma. Oh look it gapped up today and is getting ready to retake old pivot (which is probably invalid) I will add a little more and sell if it falls below 50dma).

But I was not following it and I probably would not have done what I said anyway. But I am trying to learn what Mike Webster might say, so I am saying it out loud. :slight_smile:

DKS: Dicks Sporting Goods

If you read one book read “Trade your way to Financial Freedom” by Van Tharp. Also he has plenty of more to read.

Andy

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Some stocks mentioned in the IBD weekend review…
META is in a breakout failure mode (went below pivot).
○ A lot of people are expecting IWM to return to the mean after years of underperforming the S&P500
IGV is looking better. It had wedged up with no rest, but now we had a shakeout with support at 21dma. So now you want to look at the component stocks for opportunities.
XHB (home builders) up 11% on the week.
○ 27:52 APPF - strong breakout, first mover in the IGV. Look for a dip to buy, but must hold above $250 for a week to give us confidence.
○ 29:19 GNRC - Looking at weekly, we see a lot of overhead from long ago, buy Mike says overhead older than 18 months can be discounted because those people are probably “worn out buy now”. On the weekly, there was a first base around March 2023. Then the second base “was bigger and wider and looser than the previous base and you never want that”. Wait for it to tighten, which is the case for this current base. The left side of the base took a lot longer to finish than the right, so we probably need to put on a handle. Mike is starting a small position here for swing trader. If it takes out Thursday’s low or maybe today’s low (at the close), we will sell it and assume there will be a handle formed, which takes 1-3 weeks. Plus, there was a large gap down back at $156.95, so would not do anything large until you can get above it and stay above it. If that gap down was closer in time, Mike would not even touch it.
○ 33:00 - BKNG - Money moving back into this area (travel) BKNG found good support at 21dma (and has been for a while)

GVA: have a couple small limit orders in to add if it dips near end of day.

MOGA: new buy, 1/3 position. I like the aerospace group (rank 33), MOGA has very good IBD rankings. Good EPS growth but Sales only growing around 11%. Fund ownership has shrunk a bit, not good and no IBD “top funds” own it. 3-weeks tight pattern in the base (good). A couple big update blue-bars in the base as well. Stock float is only $5.9B, so maybe big mutual funds won’t be able to load up.

HWM and ERJ are better stocks, HWM is consolidating and should be considered for a watch list.

GVA was a buy on 7/11 per SS. It looks good chart wise. How did you find GVA may I ask? I like how you chart your buys and sells. Symbol, bought/price, sell date/price…doc

I found GVA through the IBD process, which is why it is on this board :wink:

But, in more detail, I recall finding it when it came up in an IBD article or maybe “daily review” video. I also find IBD stocks through various screens. I missed the original breakout so put it on my watch list and when it started forming this base just over the buy zone, I kept a closer watch on it. I wanted it so took advantage of some “early buy” opportunities to start building the position. Also, I have been looking for more non-tech opportunities. I am heavy in tech outside of IBD and need to be careful.

Here are the notes I kept in my Power Point tracking file.

7/10/24: 1/6 position on strong rebound off 50dma with +97% vol. RS91, COMP99, EPS92, Group10. I had been watching this and did not buy on original breakout. It had come back and tested the buy point and rebounded well and closed just below the 50dma. Earnings est for coming year are pretty good. Fund ownership not really changing, no IBD top funds hold this. Clearly, I am very timid on this one. It has formed a base above the recent base buy zone, so this is an early buy off the show of strength on today’s rebound.
7/11/24: added 1/6 position on strong follow up day. Low CPI caused lower rates and various infrastructure stocks went up.
7/15: added 1/6 on move and hold above the 64.33 resistance area. Not official IBD base yet.

7/16: TBD, nice move up on avg volume, may add a little more. Getting low on IBD cash.

Pete.

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7/17/24 General notes:
META plunges below 50dma.
Nvidia stock tumbled 6.6% to 117.97, undercutting late-June lows and its 10-week line. That could be a shakeout that leads to the right side of a base and further gains. Or NVDA could break lower soon. TSM reports earnings Thur AM, so that could change the narrative. |
Amazon stock fell below a buy point, just holding its 50-day line|

Look at charts for CAT and URI

Put some homebuilders and related stocks on your watch list, many have made strong runs as investors became convinced of a Sept cut. They may pause and put on handles or other buyable patterns. Check member of XHB.

My recent moves for IBD holdings:
Sold $TTD and $MELI for tiny gains as they have come down from their highs. Sold a little $NVDA to buy something the other day (MOGA or GVA). Sold $CRWD and $DELL on 7/11.

I have a good cushion on NVDA since my most recent purchases were around April/May. It is approaching the 50dma, so my plan at this moment is to see if that holds. IBD team often talks about seeing how something ends the week and making a decision on Friday near close, but that assumes it is not violating some big rules like 7%-8% max loss.

My other IBD tech stocks are ORCL, ARM, and AMZN.
ARM is a full position and down to a 1% profit. I have to take off half or all tomorrow if the market does not change my mind. It is below 21dma, but above and far from 50dma.
AMZN is at 2/3rds of a position, down 3.19% and has found support at 50dma. It also came to rest at the bottom of its recent breakout day with bounce of 50dma.
ORCL is 1/3rd position, up 3.19% and resting just below 21dma. I am tempted to sell it to reduce tech exposure.

My infrastructure related positions, GVA, CARR, VSE took bigger hits than I would have expected today, but are not at a point where I would want to sell.

May add some charts to this post tomorrow.

Hi Ho.

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Stock of mention:
WAB putting on a nice handle and earnings are 3 days away. RS headed up.
APPF in tight pattern with RS moving higher. Earnings soon.

David Ryan 3-time investing champ was on the Thursday IBD podcast. Here are some notes. I was a good podcast and can be watched on YouTube or investors.com.

Reviewed NVDA stock. Recent sell-offs on high volume. Institutional selling. Attempted rally on weak volume. As it tried to get back to old highs on 7/10/24, the RS was lower, a bad sign. That is all telling you that maybe it is time to take profits, hedge the position or sell the entire position. David also looks at how long it took to recover vs go down. NVDA went down in 3 days and after 12 days of “recovery”, it was not yet back at highs before it failed again.

08:30 Looking at the Naz, it looks like an upside down rally chart. On 7/10 we put in a high, and then on 7/17 we had a high volume break-down on high volume. Just the opposite of a follow-thru-day on a rally. Plus that took us below the 21dma. And still extended from 50dma. David can see how we could easily come back to the 50dma, hopes it is not too fast. Also, after a downside reversal day, you want to see how the stock or index rallies back. The Naz was unable to set new highs.

The big IWM moves up indicate money is rotating. IWM could come back to the pivot area of $210 and still be ok.

We should watch gold, breaking out to new highs. “I have never seen gold make a huge move and the markets to well at the same time”

18:50 Review of historical NVDA runs. In early 2020 it had a good run and “got ahead of itself” and it consolidated for almost a year before starting another run. Drawing longer term trend lines lets you see when it has gone too far above the trend. Bill likes coming out of a base and go up fast with power. But when coming out of a late stage base or has been running awhile and then goes up too fast, that is a flag. Does not have to be a climatic move.

27:30 HWM: You can draw a trend line from $51 to $69 and then she is shoot up at a steep angle. Now it is consolidating but the chart is also “breaking” . Fell below 21dma on high volume and can’t get it back. Not saying it will roll over and die, but it needs to spend more time going sideways. People think that big move means it will quickly make a new big move, but it can take a long time to consolidate and stock is reset to go again

When stocks are so good and getting ahead of themselves, be prepared for taking profits or for waiting a while for it to consolidate.

In the market, you are always looking for change. An acceleration or breakdown is a change you need to think about.

Then ANTS indicator can also show when it is getting ahead of itself after a big move. (e.g. GBTC around March 2024)

34:00 Cirrus logic had been basing for a long time, then broke out and acquired ANTS on that breakout run, that portends more strength later, not a top.

When David thinks a stock is getting extended beyond its trend, he will start selling pieces. Maybe 10-15% at a time as it is going up. Once he is down to 50%, he will watch it, and if it starts turning down, he will sell more of it. He might keep a position that is small enough to let him ride through a new basing process.

Stocks To Watch: 39:30

Ollie’s: Looking to expand across country, at least double stores. Turning around and has had 4 good quarters of earnings. Better than their competitors. Had a good move after latest earnings and created a “flag” with a 3-weeks tight pattern - not giving up gains. Much better merchandise than Five Below.

One year after losing money, Dave decided to improve his discipline and stop chasing stocks. He would only buy cup with handle breakouts and he did much better.

45:00 Best Buy - looking at a replacement cycle from the 2020 PC buys and AI chips should help a refresh cycle. Look for it to set up a proper base. When looking at a turnaround stock, he wants to see institutional buying. For BBY, it had 5 or 6 high volume up days in a row after earnings. Turnarounds require you to depend a lot on the technicals of the stocks, but you need a couple quarters of good earnings first.

If you are in a hot sector our group like technology, watch for other sectors or groups starting to move. That indicates they are receiving money and that money could well be coming out of a hot area, thus signaling a top. For instance, look at long-term health care stocks like ENSG and PNTG. The built nice bases and good breakouts. The whole group was attracting money. Look at the earnings line on the weekly for ENSG. Watch the stock for a new base. SBRA.

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$ARM: Sold about 15 minutes ago. After the recent market action, ARM had not shown strength so I considered sell options. I decided to put a stop loss at the low of the lowest down day (last Thursday) and then watch. This morning, ARM was up, but by lunch time it had given up those gains. On the other hand, NVDA is holding most of its gains of the day. For those reasons, I thought it would be best to take my tiny 1.86% profit and have that cash available for a bigger decline or for stocks seeing money flows from market rotation. Green lines were my buys and red is my sell. The thin red line at low of the down trend was my stop loss indicator)

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I will watch NVDA for futher weakness and am willing to sell portions to reduce my position size in the IBD account. But right now, it is holding daily highs.

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I have been following this stock and like it. Broke out but now below pivot by a hair. Group Rank 6, RS95, COMP 98. Market Cap only $3.3B. Benefactor of all the infrastructure spending. EPS growth has been strong and expected to be good this year and next.

I bought half a position of $GE breaking out of a tight stage 3 flat base. Strong RS and COMP numbers. Stage 3 is a little late, but I liked that base and it was a gap up off earnings. I had also considered $TRN and $PNR and $ROAD.

And, I bought a 1/3 position in SPOT. I been watching this as a possible NFLX stock. Best in class music streamer. Everyone I know prefers is. Huge gap up on earnings, the second Q in a row with positive earnings. Multiple quarters of good sales growth. IBD rankings are weak, so my bias probably allowed me to buy this when I normally might not. Also, I am burning up my cash, so if this a fake out rally, I will need to sell some at a loss.

○ GE Aerospace (GE), Spotify (SPOT) Pentair (PNR) and HCA Healthcare (HCA) flashed buy signals Tuesday on earnings.

○ On the [Google] conference call, Google signaled heavy spending in Q3, which will pressure margins. The internet giant also will invest more on its autonomous driving unit Waymo. I bet a lot of that spending will be on AI equipment (NVDA, ANET)

○ The market rally is still acting well. It’s unclear if megacap techs such as Nvidia and Microsoft will rev higher or take a longer, well-deserved break. In the meantime, many stocks in the housing, financial and industrial sectors, and others, are showing strength.

Today marked a change in character for the market, with the Naz easily falling below the 50dma on higher volume and the S&P500 finding support at the 50dma. Both finished at the low prices of the day, just like they did yesterday.

IBD cuts recommended exposure to 40%-50% at the end of the day.

I believe they will call an end to the Power Trend as the market went below the 50dma decisively. However, CMG, NOW and IBM popped on earning after hours, so maybe traders get happier and give us a lift tomorrow. I am setting my expectations for more declines and recommend everyone look at the correction back in April (see the Market Health Thread).

Today I sold most of my IBD NVDA holdings (except some of my oldest from Nov 2023). I also sold ORCL, CCL, AMZN. I should have sold my new GE, but since it did so well after earnings, I am HOPING it is the most likely to bounce a little tomorrow. I heard hope was the best strategy or something like that :wink:

As I noted the other day, I was taking my exposure above the recommended level and I might have to pay for it, and pay for it I did. At least the new buys were not full positions and SPOT was up today

Hi Ho.

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I follow the Saul stocks and this is what showed up on my list. Lotta respect for those people and their analysis of stocks. It was a red day for the market…doc

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Today is a different day for the market and the Saul stocks:


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A lot more green…doc

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Big upside reversals for markets and many stocks. SPY back above 50dma, Naz bumping up on it. We would want to see the indexes close near the top of the range to improve our confidence, but this feels a little like a mini-capitulation. I think the pending Fed rate cuts are keeping a bottom on the market. I might by some of my IBD positions back :wink:

ohhhhh, that was an ugly end to the day, reversed off lows, then reversed off highs and ended near the low of the day. S&P is now below 50dma. 7 distribution says for S&P, 3 for Naz.

Here is the five minute chart (2-day) for S&P

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Crazy market recently. Cool PCE numbers have made everyone happy, including me. I had raised cash recently so now I am putting some to work on 3 breakouts today. I am keeping them at 1/6 position at the moment and am willing to double that at the end of the day.

They are: BKR, IBP, TOL.

Charts and stuff to follow this weekend and I will try to post the markup of my sales and my reasoning from earlier this week.

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Pete this is a crazy market. Whipsaws all over the place. Might be a good time to look at ETF’s to ride this out till we see a clear direction.

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Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with cash. I decided to just go small. I have a tendency to try and get in a little early sometimes, we shall see. Thanks.

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Bought $IBP today, a housing related stock.

Here were my thoughts…
7/26/24: found this on breaking out today. Was familiar with this housing related stock. Great IBD rankings: EPS 96, A, A, B+, Comp98. RS 94 and rising. Had a nice shakeout near the bottom of the base in June. Had a high volume gap up over 50dma in July. There were a number of good blue bars around that gap up. Also, had a nice tight consolidation right below the buy zone. The bad: breakout vol on +22% and the EPS and Sales growth have been mediocre. If it fails, we know why. Bought 1/6 position in afternoon and then added 1/6 near close as it closed at top of range. Still being a little conservative with only a 1/3 position in this volatile market. But, PCE was cool today and that give people even more certainty that Fed will cut in September.


Here are my tracking notes on $TOL…
7/26/24: Great IBD rankings: EPS97, A-, A, A, Comp97. RS 93 and rising and above trend lines. A couple small gap ups in right side of base. Last couple of weeks show more blue than red, so built a good right side of base. Stage 1 cup only 20% deep. Growing fund ownership, but no IBD star funds. EPS growth is good, sales growth ok. Bought 1/6 in the afternoon then another 1/6 at end of day as it held near highs. Being a little conservative in this volatile market but I think the cool PCE today will give the market what it wants to stop jumping around. The breakout was weak about 7 sessions ago, but I consider today’s move back into the buy zone as the breakout on 51% above avg volume.

More to come later.

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Here is one to watch. A mexican grocery chain.

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