Trust in news collapses to historic low

Our economy is built on trust. Do you know who picked your bananas? The internet has made conspiracy theories easy to spread, and some spread mistrust to gain power.

Choose your reality: Trust wanes, conspiracy theories rise, July 10, 2022
“Rejecting what they hear from scientists, journalists or public officials, these people instead embrace tales of dark plots and secret explanations. And their beliefs, say experts who study misinformation and extremism, reflect a widespread loss of faith in institutions like government and media… “Trust is absolutely essential to everything in society working well,” Reis said. “It’s one of those things that, like air, people don’t think about it until they realize they don’t have it, or they’ve lost it or damaged it. And then it can be too late.” For experts who study misinformation and human cognition, the fraying of trust is tied to the rise of the internet and the way it can be exploited on contentious issues of social and economic change.”
https://apnews.com/article/covid-technology-health-governmen…

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Funny.
After news shows intentionally became “entertainment” rather than a means to provide
news to the public, trust is slowly worn away?

Who would have thought?

Howie52

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Let me back up and explain my comments a bit more.

By equating marriage and slavery, you demean marriage and trivialize slavery.

Marriage is a mutually beneficial partnership. Both parties give up something to gain something they feel is more valuable. There are some freedoms to living alone. You can do what you want. But there are also costs - you have to do everything that must be done. In the modern world, that means you have to provide for everything you need and you have to do all that needs to be done. In a marriage - a partnership - each party can specialize a bit. Perhaps one can earn enough to support both, so that the other can take care of the home. (This might be the idealized 1950s marriage.) Or both can work and contribute to provide more things than either one could provide separately.

Humans are also generally social creatures. We feel better and we are healthier when we have regular social contacts. A marriage partner provides one way to get that social contact on a regular basis. I’m not arguing that social contact is a universal need among humans, but it is pretty common.

If marriage is so good how come there are so many divorces? I know, I know, it’s not the institution, it’s the people who ain’t good.

So why are there divorces? Well, people are human and make mistakes. Sometimes we make a mistake in picking a marriage partner. People also change. What was a mutually beneficial partnership in the beginning may change over time to the point where it no longer benefits one partner (or perhaps both partners) enough to be worth the costs of being married.

This is in stark contrast to slavery. Slavery is a completely one-sided arrangement. The slave holder takes away virtually all human rights from the slave and forces the slave to work solely for the slave holder’s benefit. It is the exploitation of one person for the benefit of another. The slave gets no benefit from his labors beyond perhaps the provision of subsistence level food and housing. The cost of feeding and housing a slave is merely another cost of business, much like feeding and housing farm animals is a necessary cost of raising the farm animal for food (cattle, pigs, chickens, for example) or for the work the farm animal can do (like horses and oxen). Once the animal has served its purpose, it is tossed aside. The same happens to a slave that is no longer useful. Slavery is among the most demeaning things that humans have come up with during our time on this planet.

As to your sadomasochism comments: Sadism and masochism are mental illnesses. They are not healthy or normal behavior. They should not be trivialized, either. And neither are a form of slavery. Sadism is the affliction of physical or mental pain on others solely for the enjoyment that brings to the sadist. Masochism is the same on yourself. Neither have the financial aspects of slavery. Slave holders can treat the slave quite well - and such was not unheard of in the historic practice of slavery in the US. But it is still slavery, which is different from these mental illnesses. Sadism or masochism - or the combination of both - has nothing to do with slavery. Not even your “voluntary” or “non-coercive” slavery.

I am aware of sadomasochism as a form of sexual play. But this is not the real mental illness. Some folks get a kick out of playing the role of a sadist or masochist. But it’s very important for both parties to understand it is play and should be stopped if either party begins to object. And that’s all I care to comment about that.

–Peter <== who claims 39 years of marriage as his credentials to discuss the topic of marriage.

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Most people know it is ‘chisme’ or ‘chismoso’.

A lot of cultures have a need for chisme.

Intelligent uneducated people use it to stop some of their boredom. It is fun. It is easy. It is slamming all sorts of nonsense together that can be about anything.

Instead of carping about it openly discuss how demand side econ pays them.

The main reason for divorce is anger.

You can be rich or poor. You can have good or bad health. Anger to an extreme divides two people.

The rest of the fought over stuff is the excuses.

I’m SHOCKED! Who is still interested in keeping up with the news? I have so much news fatigue. I find the news to be far more disturbing than any horror movie I’ve ever watched.

At least when people die in horror movies, I can take comfort in the fact that they’re pure fiction and no more real than Star Wars or Snow White. Also, the mass murderers in horror movies don’t have the support of half the population.

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Marriage is a mutually beneficial partnership.

Always or just in theory? Do not confuse the theory of marriage (good) with the practice of marriage (variable).

So why are there divorces? Well, people are human and make mistakes.

How about gold diggers marrying millionaires, a human mistake? How about wealthy males marrying arm candy? Polygamy? Infidelity? Menage a trois? Same sex marriage? All good?

I happen to believe that a happy marriage is most important for the offspring. Once I said this on the web and a bastard felt insulted because his was an unwed mother.

Sadism and masochism are mental illnesses.

Yes, sadly, but is is part of the human condition, you can’t sweep it under the rug.

It (slavery) is the exploitation of one person for the benefit of another.

You are conflating several subjects I posted about into an undifferentiated salad. What you are saying rings true but does not apply to my points.

–Peter <== who claims 39 years of marriage as his credentials to discuss the topic of marriage.

I congratulate you for your terrific marriage record!

The Captain

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Marriage is a patriarchal institution intended to control the inter generational transfer of status and property from the pater to his (usually male) heirs. Legitimacy could be guaranteed only by controlling the sexuality of women.

The Mosuo have a culture without marriage because women control property making paternity unnecessary.

https://amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/apr/01/the-kin…

Marriage is a patriarchal institution

The 18th century called. They want their philosophy back.

Seriously, we have moved on from the 1950s. Women are no longer entering marriage to be taken care of by their husbands. (Ok - perhaps some are. But it’s not nearly as many as it used to be.) I believe they are mostly interested in the partnership I described above.

In talking with my nieces, they are in no rush to get married. They are working on their careers and education. Both have bachelor’s degrees (yep - there’s another bit of male centric naming there). One is working on her doctorate. The other is focusing on career at the moment. Both have moved some 2000 miles away from their parents, and are successful young women. They have had friends of the male variety, but no commitments yet, although both say they have not ruled out marriage.

I believe that marriage, when viewed as a mutually beneficial partnership, can be a very good thing.

–Peter

PS - Women are also marrying women. Kind of hard to have a patriarchal marriage without a patriarch at all.

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.The 18th century called. They want their philosophy back.

Seriously, we have moved on from the 1950s. Women are no longer entering marriage to be taken care of by their husbands.

Yes, and we’re moving on from marriage as a result. The marriage rate has been dropping for decades.

https://u.osu.edu/zagorsky.1/2016/06/03/marriage/marriagerat…

Marriage remains an important legal institution for the well off, but is fading away for the middle class.

https://www.brookings.edu/research/middle-class-marriage-is-…

I appreciate your nostalgia for the institution, I’ve been married 24 years myself, but we’re well off. In another generation or two the institution will have been replaced by something else.