You still do not understand the difference about generating capacity and actual generation.
Think of it as a car that has a capacity to travlel 6000 miles at 60 mph without stopping. In the Electrical world you would call this electric generation capacity.
But that car is actually needs needs to stop for traffic, gas and the driver needs to rest. That means it can not achieve its travel capacity. That is called actual travel. In Electrical world you can call it actual electrical generation.
I get the capacity thing. For example, the capacity factor for solar in Germany is very low. The capacity factor of nuclear is quite a bit higher meaning you get more power from nukes than from an equivalent capacity.
However, all that does not change the fact that batteries do not generate any electricity on their own.
DB2
You are so very confused.
Capacity Factor is not the same as Capacity-Generation (Capacity).
Generation is not Capacity
Batteries do not generate electricity - Batteries store electricty.
When wind, solar, or other energy source generates electricity - they store excess electricity in the battery for later use. The stored electricity has a rating for how much electricity it stores. That rating is what you are confused about.
I hope you read more about electricity on the internet because I have tried to educate you, but I am not getting through.
The following link has a good discussion on the rating of Utility Scale Batteries. Hope it isnât above your technical capability to undesrstand.
Nor are they counted as part of generation capacity (at any time/point).
They are counted the same as the batteries in flashlights, cell phones, or on a display in a store, waiting to be bought.
My suspicion is that the utilities would continue to operate their old plants. They donât want to invest more than the bare minimum in their companies. A few years ago, there was a push, undoubtedly backed by the utility companies in Michigan, for government subsidies. Their panic inducing TV commercials started out declaring that presently scheduled powerplant retirements will result in a power shortage in the state. The screed continued with words to the effect âthe utility companies say they will make up the lost capacity with power purchased from out of state. WE CAN"T TRUST OUT OF STATE COMPANIES TO PROVIDE THE POWERâ. Therefore, the ad concluded, the state, ie we taxpayers, had to pay the utility companies to build new plants.
When I bought a new HVAC system for the condo, about 5 years ago, the dealer kept trying to quote the cheapest equipment (which was also the lowest efficiency) for the job. She must have had the same experience with customers that I had at RS. I have commented before, I wish I had a dollar for every person who walked into my store, and the first thing out of their mouth was âwhatâs your cheapestâ. That is how most USians seem to roll: they want everything in the world, but they donât want to pay squat for it.
When the HVAC contractor kept trying to quote the cheapest, lowest efficiency, equipment, I had to push, repeatedly, before she finally quoted higher efficiency equipment. My local gas/electric utility, DTE, pays a rebate for higher efficiency equipment, about $250 each for a 95% furnace, and about the same for a/c >15 SEER. The rebates from DTE, were about the same as the upcharge for the more efficient equipment, so it was a no brainer from my perspective.
I got the same sort of deal from DTE when I bought a new refrigerator: the rebate I got for replacing the 1982 fridge with a new âenergy starâ rated one was equal to, or more, than the upcharge for the more efficient fridge.
Steve