What might be going on

Yesterday was a monster day in the market for the stocks that many of us own. Saul posed the question of what is going on. Personally, my portfolio was up 6.2% yesterday so here’s how it looks for 2018 so far this year:


        YTD     Month   S&P YTD S&P mo  YTD dif Mo diff
Jan	25.59%	25.59%	4.85%	4.85%	20.74%	20.74%
Feb	37.45%	9.44%	0.99%	-3.69%	36.46%	13.12%
Mar	40.74%	2.40%	-1.58%	-2.54%	42.32%	4.94%
Apr	41.05%	0.22%	-1.20%	0.38%	42.25%	-0.17%
May	55.78%	10.45%	1.18%	2.41%	54.61%	8.04%
6/1	65.55%	6.27%	2.28%	1.09%	63.27%	5.18% (1 day after May!)

In the first day of the June my stocks were up 6.27% while the S&P 500 was up only 1.09%. But due to compounding that 6.27% is a change of close to +10% when conceding the Jan 1st start date. Just crazy. The YTD outperformance is now more than 63%. Here’s my portfolio summary from a few days ago:

http://discussion.fool.com/gauchochris-portfolio-update-5292018-…

If you haven’t read my latest summary, I tried to explain how and why I allocate the way I do. It’s not right or wrong, but it’s just the way I’ve chosen to structure my portfolio given the way I am analyzing and thinking about my companies currently. I was actually hoping that it would generate more discussion…not around the stocks but more around the way I’m thinking. Always good to be challenged to better evaluate one’s own thinking. Anyway, let’s move on to what’s happening in the market.

So what’s going on? Why are these stocks outperforming so much?

  1. Well, I think that we’ve really picked some really great companies. The growth rate is really good for all these companies. And the companies have all now reported their financials twice so far this year. Thus, they’ve demonstrated their growth and their progress toward profitability. Many of these companies are not trying to be profitable soon. They are trying to maximize their growth opportunities while staying around cashflow neutral. I want them to do that. These subscription based cloud companies are building up customers and a recurring revenue stream. the poster child that foreshadows where many of these companies are headed is Salesforce.com (CRM). Salesforce.com reported a blowout quarter. They are growing at scales, and out baby cloud companies (i.e. compared to CRM) are emulating a business model that has been proven by CRM. The fact that CRM is still growing so fast and is so profitable, I think, increases investor sentiment in the overall category. Last time I check CRM has a EV/ TTM Sales ratio of around 8 or 9. This is a good thing because our smaller, faster growing companies with a similar business model also have a ratio in that ballpark. This tells me that it’s likely that our companies can maintain that multiple even if they get much bigger (so long as their can keep growing).

  2. We got some pretty great economic data yesterday. The unemployment numbers looked great. Inflation (wage growth) was not very higher. GDP forecasts in the US have move up to something like 3.7% (not sure if this was projected for Q2 or Q3) which is pretty amazing for an economy as large and developed at the US. This leads investor to put risk on which means they will invest more in smaller, “riskier” companies. This should drive more investor interest in the companies that we own.

  3. North Korea problem might actually get solved. Anyway, it’s looking pretty good at the moment.

  4. Trade talks and disputes are still a risk. I think this will get solved. No one really wants a trade war. But the tech companies that we own are pretty safe in terms of the impact of any potential trade war. Agriculture, commodities, industrials, and companies that use a lot of raw materials are more at risk here.

  5. Overall, things are looking pretty good.

So what the the future hold? Can the market keep going up? Of course, opinions are just that…opinions. Here is my opinion and my outlook. Take it for what it’s worth.

a) The “market” has barely moved this year. S&P 500 is only up about 2.5% YTD. That’s nothing. We had great earnings growth. We had tax cuts which will make many of the companies more profitable. We have low inflation. We have the economy expanding. We have more people working who will spend their earnings on stuff which will further increase earnings of companies. We also have increasing capital spending by companies which will likely kick in in Q3 and Q4 as companies will get accelerated depreciation if they investing in CapEx this year. We don’t yet have people piling into the market…little or no FOMO currently.

b) I believe that the market will see a big rise. When? I have no idea but with all this growth and all these positives. I think a big driver will be the CapEx spending that’s bound to come. If I had to guess, I think we will see a pretty big move in the S&P500 between now and then end of Q4 earnings season which is in early February 2019. Of course, there could always be some geopolitical shock or another financial crisis or a solar flare that knocks out all electronics in the world (this last one would really crush many of our portfolios). Anyway, if the overall market (S&P500) rises then our companies will rise along with it I think.

c) I’ve posted my world view about inflation and technology advancement acceleration many times before. I think that technology is accelerating faster and faster. I see this with NVDA and NVDA is driving other companies and many innovations that leads to faster and faster growth and contributes to keeping inflation low.

d) These mid-cap fast growers are in the sweet spot of risk-reward. Why? Because they have a lot of growth ahead (captured small part of markets that they are in) while they have proven themselves. My proven I mean that they have demonstrated that this is a market for their product/service/subscription, they have proven that the market is growing, they have proven that they add value (customers buying). There is so much of the risk that’s been eliminated. Compare this to a start-up which has so many risks. I used to invest in start-ups but no more. There’s just to many risks: market risk, financing risk, management team risk. Companies that have demonstrated that the market is there and have demonstrated that they offer value (by customers actually buying and recommending them) offer a high probability to make huge returns. Once a company has captured too much of the market, the growth slows. So there is a sweet spot. I think that SHOP, SQ, NTNX, AYX, TWLO, PSTG are in that sweet spot. And most of these companies have an asset light business model. So part of what is going on here, I believe, is that the market has not yet figured out how this business model should be valued. We’ll see if that is true. Perhaps the revenue growth is being underestimated. Or perhaps the future value (i.e. the low cost of delivering those CFs) of all the recurring revenue cashflows is really underestimated.

Anyway, those are some high level thoughts on what I think is happening and is likely to happen.

Chris

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a) The “market” has barely moved this year. S&P 500 is only up about 2.5% YTD. That’s nothing. We had great earnings growth. We had tax cuts which will make many of the companies more profitable. We have low inflation. We have the economy expanding. We have more people working who will spend their earnings on stuff which will further increase earnings of companies. We also have increasing capital spending by companies which will likely kick in in Q3 and Q4 as companies will get accelerated depreciation if they investing in CapEx this year. We don’t yet have people piling into the market…little or no FOMO currently.

Chris"

Add to the accelerated depreciation, all the repatriated money coming back from overseas. The money overseas is “deemed repatriated” and taxes must be paid on those funds so US companies have nothing to lose by bringing back the funds to the US. Some of the money will be used for capex, and a part of it will be used to fund corporate buybacks. I am seeing a lot of buybacks on my news feeds. This means the amount of shares outstanding in the market are dwindling. Same amount or more money chasing fewer available shares should equal an upward bias imo.

Rob

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Chris-

Thanks for sharing. On your portfolio update, I really like the way you think of ranking your stocks, and having the most money in the stocks you like the best. It forces your portfolio to match your thinking.

I don’t do enough of that. For example, my largest position is ANET, but it isn’t my highest conviction right now (for the same reasons discussed here), so I should be reducing its position size.

As a side note, I still like ANET going forward and will keep it in my portfolio (Arista has somewhere around $500 M in deferred revenue, so it has much more SaaS qualities and “guaranteed sales” than most realize), but it shouldn’t be my largest position if it isn’t my highest conviction.

Like you, I think the key is revenue growth. If a company is growing 50%, the stock can go up 50% in a year and its at the same multiple of sales!

Jimbo

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Hello Chris,

Great post and great results this year!

(i) Perhaps the revenue growth is being underestimated. Or perhaps the future value (i.e. the low cost of delivering those CFs) of all the recurring revenue cashflows is really underestimated. (/i)

I agree, but I also believe that there is a lot of money that still must follow the “prudent man rule”. If they are then valuing companies based on conventional methods they will undervalue the value of those companies you listed because even though the growth is perceived, the path to profitability is perceived to be uncertain enough that they could be criticized should the investment not work out. It this is correct, it will give investors like us that are earlier to the “real” valuation a much longer runway for investment. That is, we can hold profitably not just until the rate of growth has slowed, but until it has slowed a much greater amount than we perceive to be likely before the market valuation is affected negatively. The valuation of CRM bears this out as its growth is not near NTNX or PSTG yet it still carries a PE of a great growth stock.

Best regards,

Mike

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As Marvin would sing, "What’s going on?

Twenty-four days later.

What’s going on?

What has changed in 24 days?

Can you discuss macro-economics?

Or is it verboten?

“Just the data, m’am.”

Can you discuss macro-economics?

Sure, go to the
METAR board. You can even use it for investing, if you want to
make a small fortune. . . .

out of a large one.

Cheers
Qazulight

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I do not quite understand your post but I would say everything has changed in the last 24 days. The volatile material is a world awash in debt and the debt being in dollars and the catalyst for a possible explosion a trade war. The question the market is reasonably asking is to what extent trouble in ROW could affect current USA earnings and multiples.

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Steina,

ROW: Redistribution of Wealth???

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ROW - Rest of World