Bob,
I think you are a great guy but one gaff v what you come up with…you might want to think about the old staying, “people in glass houses should not throw stones”.
Now people who inherit and have never actually held a job but would salute a NK general…that takes the cake. In fact there were several cakes.
so very hard indeed.
Pete
Exactly the point…
DB2
Until you realize that one glasshouse are decent hardworking people and the other has held back the nation for 40 years.
It is freedom of speech to propose the wrong ideas entirely. It is intelligence, not a freedom in and of itself, to know when an idea is just flat out wrong. When you have 40 years of the wrong ideas something is wrong. Especially if the way you got the wrong ideas was someone lying to you and you bought in for 40 years. Might want to check that.
In order to check it would require fact-checking the initial claims about desired vs actual results. Denying responsibility for everything means never having to admit things did not turn out as desired.
Look at what happened with Kansas. Oh, nobody is mentioning it? WHY?
In what ways has Brexit worked for you, Divitias?
The UK not being the EU’s cash cow has helped. I’ve done OK.
The EU is after more members’ cash again. How’s this for doublespeak:
The European Commission called on Tuesday for EU countries to contribute more cash to the bloc’s shared coffers through a new dedicated revenue stream calculated on the profit base of companies operating in each…
…It is not a tax on companies, nor does it increase companies’ compliance costs. It will be a national contribution paid by Member States based on the gross operating surplus for the sectors of financial and non-financial corporations
I’m a retired FCA (USA = CPA) and find this a little confusing. But then the head of the EU is a convicted criminal so what do you expect?
Maybe it’s time to go back to neoliberalism. Less Central Power.
The Captain
The point is there is very little central control.
0.5% is not a major problem. There has to be a shift to a central government to make the EU work.
Dreaming of no taxes is a personal foible for many people. It is not reality based. Neither is your wealth in a situation with a poor central government.
You think that government works well???
The most terrifying words in the English language are: I’m from the government and I’m here to help
(Ronald Reagan)
If the government was involved the Pilgrim Fathers would still be in Plymouth doing the paperwork!
Well, as a not-so-casual observer, I’ll suggest that the functioning of the NHS (one of the pro Brexit lobby’s squawking points) hasn’t been one of them.
Historically, any era’s “recent immigrants” have provided the scut labour that kept the service running …from the custodial staff through to junior doctor level. The European Union has been the source of much of this labour market in recent decades. Or rather…had.
A few months after the vote, one of my cronies from Days of Yore (who’s been a Tory county councillor for a number of years) was praising the ER staff at the local hospital on Facebook. Basically a tribute and a thank-you for their hard work handling the crush of patients…many of whom were on gurneys lining the corridors…as his mother in law waited for hours to be admitted. Of course, not the immediate result of the Brexit vote but the sort of thing the credulous believed was going to be addressed promptly, I’m sure. Fast forward to a year ago…when he’d bitten the bullet for private care for knee replacement surgery after too long on the NHS waiting list…I was commiserating and, I bet if I’d been crass enough to ask how his Brexit vote has improved things, he’d have said it’s working for him.
P.S. …and I totally forgot. The NHS is 75 years old today! Hadn’t thought about it until a post on my FB page from my home town’s site. Complete with close to 30 photographs dating back to those early years (very “Call The Midwife”, if anyone’s seen that series) Unfortunately, it’s a closed group and they won’t show.
By coincidence…well, I did contrive it to work that way … I’m working my way through the Magic Treehouse early reader series with my 6 year old granddaughter and this was yesterday’s book …
The thing to remember is that, although America feels “young” because of this, some of those European member states…or countries, as they like to think of themselves…weren’t in existence as such back then. Both “Italy” and “Germany”, for instance were separate kingdoms or parts of earlier Empires up until shortly after the mid 1800s…and in between then and the beginnings of the Common Market there was more than a bit of animosity shown so that apparent tardiness in banding together isn’t too surprising.
If you think Brexit was bad and stupid (it was), look up TEXIT. 
Better than the private sector yes. The government never bankrupts. Well the US government never bankrupts. The government is a better employer. The government has more educated workers. The government makes more sense than industries like Coke, tobacco or alcohol…and that is the tip of the iceberg for really bad private sector firms.
Yes the government works better than just about any private sector industry.
I am surprised you go on and on otherwise.
He also said if you are following the law you have nothing to worry about. Reagan was a terrible president. He made up stuff for those who waved the flag but there never was a pony in there following supply side econ. There was just a lot of horse stuff.
Reagan was living in a make believe land when he was California’s governor. It got a lot worse with age.
I never look to government for innovation, enterprise, good ideas, sound management or anything else.
If governments are so good then, given the size of them in the Western World, we should all be living in an economic and social paradise.
The government never bankrupts. Well the US government never bankrupts.
True, they always tend to pay their bills in depreciating currency that always ends up being little more than toilet paper.
Then why haven’t you moved to Somalia? No real government there to speak of. Just every man for himself. Perfect for someone who thinks government isn’t useful for anything.
—Peter
Somalia, a perfect example of governmental incompetence. They seemed to be doing alright until Western countries started poking their noses in:
Starting in 1875 the age of Imperialism in Europe transformed Somalia. Britain, France, and Italy all made territorial claims on the peninsula. Britain already controlled the port city of Aden in Yemen, just across the Red Sea, and wanted to control its counterpart, Berbera, on the Somali side. The Red Sea was seen as a crucial shipping lane to British colonies in India, and they wanted to secure these “gatekeeper” ports at all costs.
The French were interested in coal deposits further inland and wanted to disrupt British ambitions to construct a north-south transcontinental railroad along Africa’s east coast, by blocking an important section.
https://www.un.int/somalia/somalia/country-facts
No wonder its ended up like it has!
Doesn’t matter how they got there, they now have what you seem to want, no functioning government.
Or are you backtracking on your statement that you don’t trust government for anything?
This is an amusing story from the EU who ended up classifying bananas by how bendy they are:
This produced so much ridicule that it was later withdrawn.
Unfortunately there was an endless supply of ‘banana’ type rules governing every aspect of our lives. This was a good one on vacum cleaners:
How did we manage without so much government? Life must have been hell without the guiding hand of government regulating our bananas 
Where did I post that?
