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at https://discussion.fool.com/favoriteboards.asp

Denny Schlesinger

Denny, Favorite Boards will be going away along with the old boards platform.

Fuskie
Who could not replicate the issue and hopes it was just a caching issue…


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Favorite Boards will be going away along with the old boards platform.

Err, will there be a migration to something new? Or should I be printing out my current Favorites so that I can reconstruct it afterwards.

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Tamhas, all the messages from the current boards will be migrated to the new platform, but the new platform has a very different interface. For now, I might bookmark specific posts or boards you want to be able to refer to; they will be closed and archived for a time, though I expect eventually they will be taken offline.

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Who notes the new platform does have a means of flagging categories (services), sections (boards) and topics (threads) to be tracked, and a robust notification system to allow you to be alerted to new posts, but that new system is not integrated into the old Favorites & Replies page…


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Fuskie, I am confused about your expectation of the future.

Currently at the top of my opening page at TMF.com (https://discussion.fool.com/favoriteboards.asp?voptxdf37kgz3x7fr…) I have four tabs - Favorite Boards, Favorite Fools, Replies to Your Posts and Marketed for Later Reply.

Are you saying this specific page is likely to be removed?
Are you saying that my current Favorite Boards (they are all active boards - including this Board, Investing Beginners, Help with this STUPID computer!, etc.) might disappear?
Are you saying there will be a future significant freemium board reduction?

(I appreciate it is likely some/many deactivated Boards will be removed.)

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Fuskie,
Totally confused re the present and future plans for us and our use of TMF community boards. Would it be too much to expect for the powers that be to provide us switch some guidance?

Not trying to be snarky but so far we (those of us who still check in occasionally) haven’t been provided much info on past, present and future plans .
Thx

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But, will there be an equivalent of Favorites and Replies where I can see all the boards I follow and whether or not there is new traffic? No way do I want a new notice every time someone posts to METAR.

Fuskie
Who could not replicate the issue and hopes it was just a caching issue…

Did you try https://www.fool.com/css/Compat.css

That should give a 404 error but the Favorite Boards link won’t show that error to the user. To see it you need developer tools like the Safari Develop menu.

Denny Schlesinger

But, will there be an equivalent of Favorites and Replies where I can see all the boards I follow and whether or not there is new traffic? No way do I want a new notice every time someone posts to METAR.

Yes, there is an equivalent to Favorites and Replies. It’s called Tracking and ALL your favorite boards will be converted to tracking for you. There is no need to write down your favorite boards. We’ll also convert any users you are following. You can even upgrade a tracked category (new name for board) to watched so you receive emails about any new activity (don’t do it for METAR unless you want to spend all day deleting emails!)

@GWPotter - no plans to close anymore boards, unless something was missed and is woefully inactive. All the current boards are moving.

Already in the new system, is a help guide and help videos, mostly about 2 minutes long, ready to assist with the transition. Plus an area to ask questions.

As soon as we have a firm migration date, we’ll post it above every board but I expect it will be before the end of the month.

Jen

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Jen,
that sounds hopeful…
thx

So - TMF is doing away with more useful things.

Howie52
Sounds like progress backward - double-time.

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So - TMF is doing away with more useful things.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

=sheila

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Sounds to me like we actually have no idea what the new interface will be like, so trashing it in advance is not really helpful.

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Sounds to me like we actually have no idea what the new interface will be like, so trashing it in advance is not really helpful.

The plan itself isn’t being trashed. It’s the largely negligent attitude that TMF has been showing from the start of their transformation, the poorly informed spot we members have often found ourselves in, the poorly conceived nature of too many of these changes…etc etc. So it’s this reality-based apprehension that is being expressed.

=sheila

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I’m not sure where anyone got that they are losing something from this convo. For years, Fools have been clamoring for change to the TMF Community boards, and now that it has finally arrived, change is feared.

Will the My Favorites/My Replies etc. page go away? I am not sure. I don’t see it relevant to new platform, however, which uses a completely new system of user-configurable tracking and notifications. Notifications via email, I might add, which is something that the current Community platform has never provided.

The new platform also provides quick access to New and Unread message filters, which could be considered replacements for the new messages list on MyFool.com (but I am not sure whether that is going away either). And there are new message sorting and searching features. All of which have long been requested by Fools.

This is a new platform, and it will take a little getting used to, as do all new things. But as Jen noted, there are tutorial videos and rather than treating the Freemium Community as Guinea pigs, TMF has spent the last year testing the new platform on the paid services, working through problems and ensuring the public boards would have the smoothest transition possible.

There is no one who depends more on the TMF Boards than I do. I’m sitting on 71,784 posts over nearly 25 years, which I’ve been told is a large number. I was always hoping for improvement and not change, but I’m discovering new processes and new benefits using the new platform.

Yes, there will be things about the old platform I will miss. And there are things about the new platform I don’t really like. But I expect my gripes will be in the minority, and your collective experiences will be much better than you expect.

Bottom line, please give it a chance.

Fuskie
Who notes TMF is not abandoning the public TMF Community; to the contrary, this implementation of a new platform is intended to position the public community to be able to continue and grow for the next 25 years…


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I’m not sure where anyone got that they are losing something from this convo. For years, Fools have been clamoring for change to the TMF Community boards, and now that it has finally arrived, change is feared.

It’s probably because the first really visible step that TMF took as part of this conversion was to nuke the vast majority of public boards. Boards that were popular, and were the focal points of communities that had built up (in some cases) for over two decades. With very little warning, almost no input from the community, and with apparently very little regard for the impact that it would have on people that thought (perhaps wrongly) they were an important part of the Motley Fool.

Had TMF done better over the last five months, you might see less suspicion about future changes. As it is, having heedlessly destroyed most of what had been built over the last ~25 years on the freemium side, TMF can’t really be surprised that the remaining vestiges of the freemium community are apprehensive about what’s coming next.

Albaby

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The reasons the non-financial boards were closed have all been debated and explained. There was a full month’s warning, and it was a business decision, not a community decision. Management simply decided that TMF was an investing and personal finance business, not a general social media company. It’s not that long time Fools were disregarded, it’s that TMF refocused on its core business. That’s something as investors, Fools look to their invested companies to do as well.

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There was a full month’s warning, and it was a business decision, not a community decision. Management simply decided that TMF was an investing and personal finance business, not a general social media company.

“Tell Mike it was only business. I always liked him.”

I think you’re misremembering. The notice that each of the various non-financial Boards would be closing “in the near future” went up on April 13 - Foolmageddon was less than two weeks later. At no point did TMF ever announce an actual date or specific timeframe in advance. So no one had advance warning to do wrap-ups or good-byes or announce what alternate sites they were going to. Given the damage control that you were asked to do - going around to various finance-adjacent boards that were incorrectly identified as closing and telling them they weren’t being closed - and the other ad hoc efforts, clearly very little thought was given to how to manage informing the community or taking any care with the closing of the boards. TMF could easily have told everyone in advance of FoolsDay that it was coming on a given date - instead, people just showed up one day and nearly all the Boards were closed. TMF couldn’t have handled it worse.

Which is certainly a choice that TMF had the option to make. “It’s only business,” not community. But you can’t then be surprised when the community is deeply suspicious of future “decisions” that are being made. Again, BTW, with absolutely no input from this community. Which again, is a choice that TMF can make - the folks on the other side of the paywall are actually where the dollars are coming from - but you can’t be surprised that having gutted the freemium community the few that remain are a weeeeeeeeeeeeee bit gunshy about what other “improvements” are coming down the pike.

Albaby

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The reasons the non-financial boards were closed have all been debated and explained. There was a full month’s warning, and it was a business decision, not a community decision.

There, that’s the reason that the community is dissatisfied, since TMF originally portrayed itself as being community-driven. Just one more institution where the actions have eroded confidence and satisfaction. All too common these days.

AJ

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AJ, TMF is a community-driven business, not a public service. It is important to understand that all those non-financial boards cost the company money to maintain and support. And while they may have provided value to the community members, those boards did not deliver sufficient value to the business to warrant their continuation. This was not sustainable.

Fuskie
Who thinks whether it was 2 weeks or two months, he doesn’t see that the feelings of those wounded by this decision would have been any different…


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