On a cold wintery day yesterday I spent a little under two hours listening to the OXY 4Q earnings webcast, including Q&A. This is the one that caused WEB to suddenly buy a bunch more OXY after he read the transcript - according to his interview with Becky.
I’ll be damned if I heard anything that would cause him to prefer OXY over CVX and XOM with one exception. That exception would be betting on oil prices going forward.
Here’s what I took from the presentation.
o OXY plans to sustain their dividend at a yield comparable to the S&P
o OXY plans to hold O&G production basically flat in 2022
o OXY plans to grow O&G production between 0-5% annually thereafter
o OXY plans to continue reducing debt until they return credit to investment grade. Now 1 step below.
o OXY plans to spend $3 billion on buybacks after reaching debt goals. 2022 2H possible if prices stay up.
o OXY claims leadership in Permian delivery per well as well as resource recovery
o So does XOM. And others.
o OXY provides little details on specifics. XOM provides a lot. CVX some.
o OXY breakeven point is $40. XOM says $41 in 2021 heading to $30 by 2027.
o XOM says >10% return in Permian at $35 crude. Plus same for Guyana & Brazil going forward. This is sustained $35, not cyclic.
o OXY and XOM have different business mixes. OXY is primarily an oil play. Their chemicals business is not petrochemicals. It is caustic soda, potash, chlorine, vinyl monomers, and some PVC. More related to GDP and homebuilding than petrochemicals. XOM much stronger in petrochemicals including premium products. Expected to grow faster than O&G going forward. CVX smaller than XOM but still petrochemicals, primarily commodity.
Buffett says OXY CEO is doing exactly what he would be doing.
I can’t see why the OXY presentation would excite Buffett. The exception is that OXY is “oilier” than CVX, which - in turn - is more so than XOM. XOM heavier in downstream, especially petrochemicals.
Two major factors are driving oil prices now. One is the lack of capex the past several years due to first the oil price war between Saudi and Russia (with shale oil a secondary target) followed by the demand collapse due to the pandemic. As demand recovers from the pandemic, supply is starting to fall behind demand due to the decline of oil fields output during these years not being replaced by new production because of capex cutbacks. The second is, obviously, the Ukrainian invasion and the threat of Russian oil being taken off the market.
So a bet on oil prices staying up bodes well for O&G producers, particularly the “oilier” ones like OXY, and especially in the near term. If there is a threat, it is more from political action (“windfall profit” taxes) than supply demand.
Otherwise I saw nothing I can understand as to why the OXY transcript would excite Buffett over other choices that could soak up a lot more idle capital. And are much stronger to endure a recession than OXY.
Doesn’t feel like a long term commitment.
Of course, he’s a genius at investing, and I’m a grunt. Who knows what he’s seeing that I’m missing? It just isn’t clear to an old guy with oil patch experience.