Education is not binding

I could not help saying that. Humor in a dark moment.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/education-department-staff-warned-trump-032124645.html

Top officials at the Education Department told staff members Wednesday that if they accept the Trump administration’s deferred resignation package, the education secretary may later cancel it and employees would not have any recourse, potentially leaving them without promised pay.

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Meanwhile the Trump administration plans to cancel the Education Dept. You wonder what jobs will be left and what separation benefits will be offered.

Those close to retirement might be best off to take the package with extra pay. Otherwise they take the risk of being terminated.

Anyone know what separation benefits are typical for govt employees?

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I have friends I get together with most mornings for coffee. One of the guys was a top lawyer in DC with the USPS. He told us this morning the peers still in DC working are getting very paranoid.

Worse pension checks might be on the chopping block. We all can say “illegal” but it is ruinous if TI acts.

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Welcome to the environment I worked in, for decades. Constant threats and intimidation, cheated out of pay and vacation benefits. OD lied to everyone in my department, for a year, then revealed the rumors were true, closed the department and tosses us under the bus. Workplace Integrators had a RIF every year, until they went toes up. Then I survived another RIF at the last place I worked. I had learned, that, to survive, keep my mouth shut, except to tell the bosses what “stable geniuses” they were, while ignoring that bit of puke rising in my throat. and work like a rented mule…because employees are nothing but expendable meat.

Steve

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There is no money for the plan, heck, the budget for the time period the buyout covers hasn’t even been written yet.

No one knows what will happen to those that accept the plan, only to find their payments cancelled if Congress doesn’t allocate funds to it.

It is actively being challenged in court as I type this. Hopefully we get a ruling today - likely a halt to it.

Edit: Well that was quick:

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/06/trump-feds-exit-plan-block-00202883

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TI’s method is well known: make a claim. Run it all the way up to SCOTUS. If he loses at SCOTUS. Make a new claim. Run that one all the way up to SCOTUS. Wash, rinse, repeat, until he gets the decision he wants.

Steve

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Why would this congress allocate the funds.

@steve203 They paid you every two weeks or four weeks. But you got paid or you were gone.

The workers may work or sit around for 8 months and get squat. Not saying anyone is honest in this deal but TI is not even trying to be dishonest. He is beyond being dishonest.

The definition of dishonest for most of us is moving one of the predicates. This is throwing the chess board up in the air and deciding that is a win.

January 6 is now Ground Hog’s Day.

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I don’t know.

I do know that civil service employees have various protections in place and can’t be fired without cause. Not being a boot licker is not a justifiable cause.

The US has already experienced a spoils system for government employees. That’s why civil service protections are in place today.

People will NOT take TFG’s ramrodding lying down. DC is not like an NYC department store dressing room.

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She said she was not lying down either. He keeps making the same mistakes. TI

You could say same crimes are committed repeatedly.

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We are seeing this right now with birthright citizenship.

On ABC Sunday Chris Christy said when he was gov of NJ, Trump urged him to go ahead with plans even though they might be challenged in court. The courts will take years to decide the issue. Meanwhile you do your thing. You may be out of office by the time the courts are done deciding.

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Typical “JC” mind set: “do whatever you want, to enrich yourself. by the time your policies blow up on the company, you will be retired, and the blowup will be someone else’s problem”.

Steve

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IIRC, the courts struct down the student loan forgiveness programs, but they kept on coming.

DB2

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The thought crosses my mind, that POTUS wants the birthright question to go to SCOTUS. The EO says it only applies to people born after the EO takes effect. The bill that has been introduced in Congress says it only applies to people born after the law is passed.

Article 1, Section 9, Clause 3 of the Constitution says:

No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

Article 1 enumerates the powers, and constraints on Congress. So, Congress cannot pass an ex post facto law.

SCOTUS is established in Article 3. I see no prohibition on ex post facto laws, being decreed by the court.

So, if the court overturns precedent, again, and agrees that spawn of aliens are not citizens, can the court make that retroactive, saying that people who have been treated as citizens, due to “flawed” previous court decisions, are, in fact, not citizens?

Steve

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Nail TIG as an illegal alien and not a “natural born citizen”. He is out of office immediately. Take ALL his assets as well.

On Birthright citizenship it has been pointed out that the amendment was passed to make the children of slaves citizens. At the time, there was no indication that immigrant children would be included. Later court decisions have supported the idea but not specifically. The Trump admin feels that the conservative supreme court might think differently. In most countries children born to immigrants are citizen of their parent’s country.

Yes, and clever lawyers can appeal an unfavorable decision again and again. It can be kept in court for decades if you are willing to pay the legal fees. Temporary court decisions to block an action are temporary and must be renewed again and again.

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I’d be down for that if Trump was determined to not be eligible for citizenship. His father was born to immigrants = non-citizen. His mother was an immigrant.

Better yet, how about just rejecting dirtbags? DJT is the dirtbaggiest of all the dirtbags.

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According to Wiki, his grandfather, who the German government determined had moved to the US to evade military service, became a US citizen in 1892. Fred the younger was born in 1906, in the US. Fred the younger’s wife became a US citizen in 1942. TI was born in 46. Do you think TI would make a decree that worked to his own detriment?

Steve

Ha, no! He’s always looking out for #1.

How do you know that? I ask, because immigrant children were included at the time.

You should look up the US v Wong Kim Ark. You could follow that up with Phyler v Doe.

Meanwhile, there is over a century of precedent for the amendment, which I realize doesn’t count for much these days, but perhaps it should given that people shouldn’t be whipsawing the law to their own liking lest they find themselves on the opposite end of the whip next time around.

If you want to change the law, my suggestion is to change the law. You know, legislature, where laws are made.

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